Brand New Mustangs

Ugh, my wife’s T Bird is riddled with Lucas parts.

As for the “new” Mustangs I’m still confused as to how they are registered. Seems like the legislation is still on the fence and it’s up to the individual states to set the laws.

Nostalgia marketing at its best. Like the ‘50s Chevys, the market fades once the old timers who lust after them are gone. AMD could probably pop out complete B and E body shells, are “New” Road Runners, Chargers, Cudas and Challengers be far behind?
I thought these were being registered in the US under the Low Volume Motor Vehicle Manufacturers Act, but the Wikipedia page says the implementation of this act is still not finalized yet.
Low Volume Motor Vehicle Manufacturers Act of 2015 - Wikipedia

In the case of the company that the OP mentioned, it reads like they are using brand new body shells, possibly made from AMD parts. I also read on their website that they are shipped without the drivetrain installed. That would get around restrictions in some places and allow them to be registered as a kit car. That workaround should make them acceptable for registration in Canada, for example. Insuring them, at least in Ontario, may be another matter however.

I suspect that the British company making electric Mustangs is starting with original Mustang shells with valid titles.
 
Ugh, my wife’s T Bird is riddled with Lucas parts.

As for the “new” Mustangs I’m still confused as to how they are registered. Seems like the legislation is still on the fence and it’s up to the individual states to set the laws.

Nostalgia marketing at its best. Like the ‘50s Chevys, the market fades once the old timers who lust after them are gone. AMD could probably pop out complete B and E body shells, are “New” Road Runners, Chargers, Cudas and Challengers be far behind?

I believe this is already happening. Idk if it is AMD, but somebody is repopping complete E body bodies. I believe a B body was next. However that was quite a while ago I saw that.

The “new” Delorean’s are falling under the same category for limited production kit cars allowed to be sold, and registered through a company.
 
I'd rather build up one like this one we discovered a few days ago.
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There it is! $18k gets you a new challenger body. Guess that’s not too bad considering. Still need a complete car for parts.
Ok, so the question is still, what VIN is being used? Aren't these Challenger shells being used like a re-body? Seems like there are still big questions on the legality of that process. As for the Shelby Mustangs, I think the numbering is continuing from where they left off in '67, but are they being registered and insured as 1967 models or 2019 models?
 
Ok, so the question is still, what VIN is being used? Aren't these Challenger shells being used like a re-body? Seems like there are still big questions on the legality of that process. As for the Shelby Mustangs, I think the numbering is continuing from where they left off in '67, but are they being registered and insured as 1967 models or 2019 models?

Honestly I’m not 100% sure. I’ve never had to deal with it. I’m sure someone else can chime in with more info.

But from the little bit I believe I’ve gathered. Companies like this mustang and the new Deloreans are allowed to do “small” runs of vehicles. I believe the number is within 350 vehicles a year. Looks like these cars are issued an actual vin from the company that builds them. I’m sure the mustang has a little more lee way, as it looks like ford is actually involved with it in some way. saying the vehicle can be serviced at any ford dealer under warranty.

Talking with my dealer buddy a long while ago, about if you loose your vin tag. As long as you can prove ownership to the state in some way, then the state can issue a new “special” vin plate for the vehicle. Kind of like the same deal as a rebuilt title in a sense. It stays with the car for forever (obviously).

I would assume an actual kit car, or possibly even one of these re bodies works the same way. You go to the state, prove ownership, car gets an inspection for safety, and then it is issued a special vin by the state.

Or you swap the vin over from a parts vehicle quietly, and/or claim it as a replacement part in some way....

Again, I could be completely wrong....
 
As @78Brougham what he did with his kit car for the VIN. I know the GSS '68 Darts they made around 2000 or so, got a completely new VIN, even though they used existing body's from '68. They were sold as a new car after the GSS transformation.
 
Reminds me of my favourite Lucas Electric joke:
Q: Why do the British drink their beer at room temperature?
A: Because Lucas also makes fridges.
also lucas was referred to as the prince of darkness. the headlight on my triumph and bsa would just stop working for no apparent reason.
 
No Mustangs for me. But I did once consider changing my daily driver Challenger into a Superbird after I had just bought her.

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As @78Brougham what he did with his kit car for the VIN. I know the GSS '68 Darts they made around 2000 or so, got a completely new VIN, even though they used existing body's from '68. They were sold as a new car after the GSS transformation.

My Caterham had its own VIN. It's actually a component vehicle. All the pieces were supplied by Caterham Cars, including the engine and trans.
Completely different from a "kit" car.
https://www.caterhamcars.com/en/models/the-iconic-range
 
Mine has 49000 miles, 4.6, 5-speed stick, limited slip rear, AC black on black, leather interior, flowmaster exhaust, runs like the day it came out of the showroom (maybe better). Looks as good today as the day I took these pictures. It's worth $17000 to me (Not for sale). At the time I bought the car, the $17000 I paid for it was a good buy in this area

That it what I though as my search found an equally nice same Mustang, with 21,000 miles, for sale from a dealer at $15999 locally.
 
would like to have that bullitt parked in my garage next to my 01 bullitt
I'm a Mopar guy to the bone, but I've seen 3 of these new Bullitt's local in the last month and they just work.

They work enough that I scheduled a test drive for one next week.

I'm not interested enough to buy, Atleast not brand new, but I would like to see if they handle and run as good as they look, supposedly 480 HP. Which is 20 over a 5.0 GT.

Nick
 
You go to the state, prove ownership, car gets an inspection for safety, and then it is issued a special vin by the state.

Or you swap the vin over from a parts vehicle quietly, and/or claim it as a replacement part in some way....

Again, I could be completely wrong....

It varies by state to state, to vehicle to vehicle. I found a mid 70's Harley Sportster engine cases for sale on eekBay with the most blatant hacked up VIN I ever saw. Reported it and then saw another set of cases with a funky Michigan re-VIN, so did some searching and I guess for theft recovered vehicle they re-VIN and can be resold under the new state issued VIN.
Really kind of shoots the valve of a vehicle as back then after 1971 Harley had to have matching VIN's on frame & engine.

A episode of Fanthom Works had a late 50's Chevy Belair (?) from North Carolina where as the got into it they found it was simpler to do the aftermarket complete re-body.
Dan was advised that re-pop riveting the VIN plate on the new body was illegal in the state of North Carolina but cutting out the VIN with a border of the original cars metal and welding it into the new body was OK and the state approved way to go.
I think YMMV applies.
 
My Caterham had its own VIN. It's actually a component vehicle. All the pieces were supplied by Caterham Cars, including the engine and trans.
Completely different from a "kit" car.
The Iconic Range - Our Cars | Caterham Cars
I can't speak for other jurisdictions, but in Ontario if you assembled the components into a car yourself that would fit the legal definition of a kit car, and would be titled as such. If the body has a VIN attached, that would be used on the registration. If not, the MTO would assign a VIN. Ontario also has a "homebuilt" designation, but it is only intended for homebuilt trailers.
 
The “new” Delorean’s are falling under the same category for limited production kit cars allowed to be sold, and registered through a company.

*NEW* Delorean's? OK, but will they be able to follow the 'White Line' on the road?

<drum roll>

:rofl:
 
If I had to have a Mustang it would have to be a 1969 or 1970 Boss 429.
 
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