What is the weight of a 1969 383 sport fury convertible

[Welder guy]

well I’m in my garage with a couple more Mopar guys talking about hell cats and how much they weigh. The shipping wt of a 2017 Hell cat is 4455lbs. Then I looked up the shipping wt of my 69 Sport fury convertible it’s 3,729 lbs. i can’t believe my eyes ! Is this the correct Weight of both vehicles ? I hope so I have a $ 50 bet Between friends riding on it.

 

[LeBaron1973]

Yes, its around the Mark, modern cars have additional safety features like side intrusion bars in the doors plus all the electronics and anti-lock braking, brake assist devices etc etc which all add to the weight.

Ironic that these cars are almost as heavy as my 1973 Imperial (4900 - 5200 pounds), hate to think what a 1973 imperial with modern safety features would weigh.

Hope you win your bet.

 

[odcics2]

Take your car to some scales.
Takes the guesswork out.

 

[Welder guy]

Woo hoo 50 bucks richer !!!

 

[CBODY67]

I found that same weight (3729lbs) in a chart from OldRide.com. Seems a little light by a few hundred pounds. But that's "shipping weight" rather than "curb weight" (with a full tanks of gas and such, plus some optional equipment).

There was a CAR LIFE road test of a '67 Sport Fury convertible and also a combination road test with a '69 Fury convertible. Have to dig them out of find them online.

The KEY to the HellCat's performance is getting that power to the ground successfully!

CBODY67

 

[Welder guy]

I found that same weight (3729lbs) in a chart from OldRide.com. Seems a little light by a few hundred pounds. But that's "shipping weight" rather than "curb weight" (with a full tanks of gas and such, plus some optional equipment).

There was a CAR LIFE road test of a '67 Sport Fury convertible and also a combination road test with a '69 Fury convertible. Have to dig them out of find them online.

The KEY to the HellCat's performance is getting that power to the ground successfully!

CBODY67

For sure I agree totally but our conversation and betting contest was about The weight of the cars they said mine would be at least 1500 pounds heavier.

 

[Jeff]

The base weight is surprisingly low, but when you add liquids and options you get pretty close to Hellcat weight. Here are the 1969 AMA spec weights.

Graveyard Cars took a Superbird and a Hellcat to a shop that had a rear-wheel dyno. The Superbird barely hit 200 hp at the rear wheels. The Hellcat was 650+. It was a super hot day. I guess they used to measure hp at the back of the engine and not at the rear wheel. Pretty amazing what can be bought these days.

 

[CBODY67]

Those AMA weights, although the starting weight seems a little suspect, they all end up being closer to reality than we might suspect, as stated above. I found a road test of a '67 Fury III convertible with a stated curb weight of 4280 and a test weight of 4660. When I added the option weight additions for the '69, it came out to be 4365lbs (383-4bbl, TF, PS, PB, PW, radio, undercoat).

KEY thing is that there are several "weight" specs. Shipping weight at the end of the assembly line might be the most reliable and constant amount model years and such. As mentioned, finding a set of scales, a HellCat (in whichever body it might be in, which IS variable!!!), and your car, would certain see which way the money changed hands.

Remember, the HellCat HEMI might have started out in Challengers and Chargers, but have expanded to almost every Chrysler/Dodge rwd car/suv platform! Given its LX platform, the Challenger is a pretty heavy car . . . even heavier than many C-bodies!

CBODY67

 

[rapidtrans]

Guess which car is heaviest.
Nope, not the old boat.
The '16 R/T by about 200 lbs. There's a lot of crash protection built into these new cars.

 

[odcics2]

There is a discussion on dodgecharger.com about the weights of Chargers over the years.
Wish I had the AMA specs to post over there.

 

[Jeff]

There is a discussion on dodgecharger.com about the weights of Chargers over the years.
Wish I had the AMA specs to post over there.

Google hathi trust public domain library and then search for 1969 plymouth fury ama specifications. You will get a 30+ page pdf of useful info. Change search for desired year and model. There is a ton of other interesting stuff available too.

 

[ph23vo]

my 19K mile 66 426 hemi coronet 500 4 speed was 4370 with a half tank of gas..

 

[Snotty]

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Guess which car is heaviest.

Guess which will out-run the other, get better gas mileage, and has the better ride?

Old cars are fun, but new cars are just better.

 

[Dobalovr]

Gotta appreciate the new stuff when the guy picks up his new Demon and does a burnout right in the middle of the shop....

 

[300rag]

Gotta appreciate the new stuff when the guy picks up his new Demon and does a burnout right in the middle of the shop....

You're working on a Monday? and a holiday?

 

[Dobalovr]

You're working on a Monday? and a holiday?

Uhh no...that was Thursday in a snow storm just uploaded today

 

[CBODY67]

A few other things about "new cars" . . . when you take them in for an oil change (especially at a quik lube place) or other non-dealer establishment, "the young 'uns" know how to work on it AND how to drive it. No "extended crank time" or tricky throttle manipulation unless something is wrong with it. They know how to order parts for them, if needed, as they recognize the make/model and such. Many parts are in stock at the auto supply.

With an older car, they'd be looking on the steering column for the ignition key slot, wonder why the dimmer switch is on the floor, or why the windshield wiper control is not on the cruise control stalk. Might never find the horn switch on a rim blow wheel!

CBODY67

 

[rapidtrans]

A few other things about "new cars" . . . when you take them in for an oil change (especially at a quik lube place) or other non-dealer establishment, "the young 'uns" know how to work on it AND how to drive it. No "extended crank time" or tricky throttle manipulation unless something is wrong with it. They know how to order parts for them, if needed, as they recognize the make/model and such. Many parts are in stock at the auto supply.

With an older car, they'd be looking on the steering column for the ignition key slot, wonder why the dimmer switch is on the floor, or why the windshield wiper control is not on the cruise control stalk. Might never find the horn switch on a rim blow wheel!

CBODY67

Heck, they wouldn't know how to lower the windows in my Monaco. Where's the button?

 

[Welder guy]

I’ve had some of the best laughs watching them look for my gas cap .

 

[Snotty]

A few other things about "new cars" . . . when you take them in for an oil change (especially at a quik lube place) or other non-dealer establishment, "the young 'uns" know how to work on it AND how to drive it. No "extended crank time" or tricky throttle manipulation unless something is wrong with it. They know how to order parts for them, if needed, as they recognize the make/model and such. Many parts are in stock at the auto supply.

With an older car, they'd be looking on the steering column for the ignition key slot, wonder why the dimmer switch is on the floor, or why the windshield wiper control is not on the cruise control stalk. Might never find the horn switch on a rim blow wheel!

CBODY67

I always had fun when I owned my '62 New Yorker, watching people trying to find the gear shift!