For Sale 1972 New Yorker Brougham in Detroit (GT8, 4dr hardtop)

C Body Mopars For Sale

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  1. Motomarco

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    Well it doesnt have the stick going from the floor to the roof in between the front and back doors. That pole give it rigidity. You remove that pole and what do you have?? BAsically a four door flexible car waitig to break. Thats why I included th elink to the Hyatt. Scary stuff. People died in that tragedy. Just looking out for you guys. Driving a t-bucket hot rod is almost as dangerous as a four door hardtop.
     
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    Might as well have included a link to the shuttle disaster, it does nothing to help explain the safety hazard you assume the car has.

    A convertible doesn't have the pole, or the roof, but they aren't deathtraps, or did you just not include them? They have additional reinforcement to compensate for the lack of a roof or B pillars.

    A four door hardtop still has the roof for rigidity. A four door hardtop is no more unsafe a vehicle than a two door hardtop.

    Thanks for looking out for us, but if it was really a concern, don't you think someone would have stumbled across it in the past 50-60 years?
     
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    OK, so you’ve got a hang up on hardtops — you’ve posted on this topic before. I guess folks who drive convertibles must be even crazier! And what should we say about the poor slab and forward-look drivers, who sit behind non-collapsible steering columns? They must be nuts!

    From now on, are you gonna post only about sedans and wagons? In fact, since no car of that vintage (with or without post) can hold a candle to modern vehicles, either in terms of avoiding a crash or in terms of how passengers fare in case of a crash, what do you suggest?
     
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    A motorcycle perhaps?
     
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    I did and I see no connection between the walkway’s poor construction and a 4 door hard top automobile.
     
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    https://www.hemmings.com/blog/article/a-history-of-hardtops/
     
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    Taken from the article, and summarizing my point.

    Were hardtops finally proven unsafe? No, they just finally went out of style. Actually, hardtops of the 1950s and 1960s were really no more unsafe than sedans. Numerous studies of wrecks and rollovers proved that those thin pillars in the completely enclosed cars provided little or no real support. Hardtops had the same roof construction as sedans, and many hardtop roofs were shorter than sedan roofs. This, coupled with a heavy bar across the center, contributed much to the hardtop’s strength. Contrary to popular belief, hardtops were not heavier than comparable sedans. A 1955 Buick Roadmaster Riviera, for example, weighed 30 pounds less than a sedan.
     
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    Hardtops are lighter and tougher.

    I need to trademark that.
     
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    Im just saying you are better off in a T-bucket hot rod than a hardtop. Plymouth Prowler is a good example. Just keeping everyone safe. Not my intention to be the police. I am not here to report anyone or any BS. I respect and like the board. Thats all.
     
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    I disagree until you can prove your point. And a car with no roof, isn't safer than a car with a roof.
     
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    Oh crap! I'm in deep sh!t now. Am I crazy, nuts, or both?
     
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    Demo guys prefer the hardtops...they are stout too. My 78 NYB took 4 seasons of demos before it finally died.

    Wtf?
     
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    Damn. Tough NYB.
     
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    @Motomarco: Thank you for this follow up!

    When I pick a new car (daily driver), I do pay a LOT of attention to safety -- not just the crash ratings, but the ability to avoid a crash to start with. I'm with you there. But when we drive a 50-year old car, all of us (knowingly or not) make the choice to take some risks in exchange for the fun -- just like we do when skiing, riding a bike, scaling a mountain, climbing a tree, etc. At that point, whether the car is a 'vert, a hardtop, or a post sedan probably does not make a huge difference -- all of our classics are (much) less safe than a modern car would be in most crash scenarios.

    Are we being fully rational? I don't know: I personally would not want to sit behind a non-collapsible steering wheel, yet I own two 'verts. Go figure :)

    Shall we get back to what we like about our cars? Can you tell us more about your C-body or, if you don't have one yet, the C-body you'd like to own?
     
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    I liked the car in the original post for this thread.
    Was considering the purchase as the car looks really clean.
    Even like the colors.

    But it is apparently sold.
    for sale for a long time, when I'm interested, it disappears within hours of seeing this thread.

    That's the 3rd car I've missed quickly since I joined here.
     
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    Keep hunting brother!
     
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    Yep. There is always another car out there. . .
     
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    I am surprised at the lower pricing of the C bodies.
    Gives me hope.
     
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