fury fan
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Well there's an easy way to add 100lbs to a car. That wheelcover is the heaviest one I've ever picked up.
NOT MINE 1972 Plymouth Gran Fury 2dr in Nebraska(GY9, 360, 31k miles only, $23.5k ask)
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Well there's an easy way to add 100lbs to a car. That wheelcover is the heaviest one I've ever picked up.
azblackhemi
Old Man with a Hat
I'm not too concerned about 100 pounds on a 4500 pound car. Not racing it nor am I worried about shaving a tenth of a second of my time.
Turbo301
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But now that every car of that era is "restored" with mags, THAT is the new "sameness", and the factory covers are what makes a car unique now. "Everything old is new again"...i came of age, with my undergraduate degree and finally a job and first, new (showroom) car purchase ability , in the malaise era for all the "Big Three".
Quickest, easiest way to take the "sameness" outta 'em.
yeah i see that angle.
its like, a fashion statement "fad" for vehicles in that everybody did wheels/tires (many similar) to attack the blandness. and certain aftermarket styles everybody had to have (stylish and affordable) proliferated, creating another kind if sameness.
in the malaise (driven by CAFE standards) era, wheel covers, as an OEM design choice became passé in favor of stylized alloys (e.g., for cost, durability, weight reasons vs steel/wheel cover styles), and I know that I for one was seduced by that and an exploding "aftermarket" that offered cool new options.
some of that "mag" sameness, from my reckoning, was/is inevitable in present day "restorations" as that was a dominant style when those malaise-era cars were new. IMHO.
Turbo301
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Yeah, because the people who are restoring and enjoying those vehicles remember the trends fondly from when they were young. It's understandable. Nostalgia is a big driver in the old car world!
It's funny reading old Street Freaks magazines and seeing the crazy things people did to what are now valuable cars, all in the name of making theirs a bit different from the crowd...
uh, yup that would be me
. locked in the '80's -- I have 10 sets of polished, Mopar 10 spoke alloys in the warehouse. I put that s**t on everything.
Turbo301
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LOL fair. Those do look good on Miradas and Cordobas of that vintage. At least they're a factory rim, if overdone a bit like the earlier "road wheels".uh, yup that would be me
locked in the '80's -- I have 10 sets of polished, Mopar 10 spoke alloys in the warehouse. I put that s**t on everything.
i love 'em man.
King Hooter
Senior Member
I wouldn't mind seeing a set of those on an Imperial of the same vintage.uh, yup that would be me
locked in the '80's -- I have 10 sets of polished, Mopar 10 spoke alloys in the warehouse. I put that s**t on everything.
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Interesting,
In all these years (I have never owned a 5x4.5 b.p. Imperial) I havent seen the J/M alloy on an Imp. Downsized, RWD Imps of that vintage ('81-83) had their own factory alloys (the "snowflakes"), but the Mirada or Cordoba ('five spokes") would have easily fit Imps.
"five" spokes on top, "ten" spokes on bottom
For that matter, I also never saw '81-'83 Imp "snowflakes" on a J body (Mirada or Cordoba), though they might have appeared on the M body New Yorker of mid-late 80's. They would have fit (interchanged) easily, though backspacing might have looked odd.
"snowflakes
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I've thought a few times of trying to find that "5-spoke" wheel for my 300L. I settled on the stock wheel cover with 14" wheels and probably gonna stick with those.
But since "road wheels" were mentioned. Dealer installed "road wheels" in 1965. I think that "road wheels" were actually Magnum 500 wheels.
fury fan
Senior Member
Sorry, I wasn't meaning it as a jab at your choice of those wheelcovers.
I was thinking back to whomever designed that one, and then the guy that signed if off for production. It should've been revised to be lighter somehow.
fury fan
Senior Member
I just scored these this weekend. Been looking for awhile and every set I saw was at least a 3-hr 1-way drive and at 'market price'. These were 30 min away and a lot less $$.uh, yup that would be me
locked in the '80's -- I have 10 sets of polished, Mopar 10 spoke alloys in the warehouse. I put that s**t on everything.
The black ones are in better shape than they look. Some curb nicks but nothing that can't be dressed down before polishing.
The 4 'clean' ones are forged, the 2 black are cast.
I have no idea what I'll put them on, if anything. Prolly they'll get polished and then just sit.
Road Wheel centers fit these, AMC volcanos (of which I have a primo set) are too large in dia to fit in the pocket.
I ran a set of these a couple of years ago.
Wore the BFGs out on this one, then re-polished them and used them on another with new boots.
fury fan
Senior Member
Yes, prior to the Fusey Road Wheels, the Magnum 500s were called that too. At least in some of hte C-body brochures.
Perhaps 'Road Wheel' meant 'whatever chrome wheels we currently offer that don't take wheelcovers'?
You can look at all sorts of factory literature from 1967 to 1974 documenting the "Magnum" style Road wheel. Basically, it was their 14" optional wheel. I've never found anything before 1967 except for the copy of the 1965 letter. From what I understand, the 15" Road Wheel began in 1970 and just used in C bodies.
IMHO, it would make some sense if they sold the Magnum 500 aftermarket wheel in dealerships in 1965. There's nothing in the 1965 or 1966 accessories book, but since Goodyear owned Motor Wheel at the time and Chrysler was using Motor Wheel and Goodyear tires it seems very possible. I think a lot of the dealerships sold Goodyear tires too. So, the network was there to get the wheels to the dealership and everybody would make money. That's some speculation on my part, based on what I've read here and there.
The funniest part of this all is when someone wants to put 15" Magnum 500 wheels on their cars and call them "correct". I've burst a couple bubbles on that one. 1969 and up 14" Road Wheels used a trim ring too. Another bunch of bubbles get burst. And then there's the guys that buy old OEM 15" Magnums thinking they are Mopar wheels when they really were off a Mustang. More bubbles burst! LOL!
1967 Chrysler brochure courtesy Hamtramck Historical.
SeaFuse
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The color combo is going to limit the price this one gets. 72 Gran Coupe is one of my have-to have-vehicles and are nearly impossible to find (outside of Deutschland). Pay more than it is worth type of car for me. But man, that triple earth-tone would always give owner's remorse vibes, unless the price was a major bargain (<$10K).
Carmine
Old Man with a Hat
Here you go.. you'll see them on my 81 Imperial, ironically while displayed in the WPC Museum at the very beginning of this video. More shots after the 6:15 mark until the end. As you can see I had the wire wheels as well. I switched back to them when I decided to sell the car. The 10 spokes are in my wheel stash for some future vehicle.
Personally, the rims on my '69 Newport are a favorite aftermarket rim, albeit hard to find. One nice thing about Factory hubcaps is that you can run just about any with / offset Cheapo wheel you want behind them. My Royal Monaco runs 15x7 police rims under the factory caps.
fury fan
Senior Member
As long as we're off-topic on this car, I saw these the other day, At first I thought they were nuts, at $750 for a set that isn't 100% gleaming and 100% RTG.
But then I saw it's 3 sets - $750 for 3 sets isn't all that bad, really.
But then - nope, we're back to $750 for each set.
And the 3rd set, teh 300 wheels, doesn't have any of the parts to go with them. Unless they came from an R-body New Yorker 5th Ave?
Fantasyland on the asking price, methinks.
But then I saw it's 3 sets - $750 for 3 sets isn't all that bad, really.
But then - nope, we're back to $750 for each set.
And the 3rd set, teh 300 wheels, doesn't have any of the parts to go with them. Unless they came from an R-body New Yorker 5th Ave?
Fantasyland on the asking price, methinks.
$750 for all? of course ( the freight would be an issue).
$750 a set? without a mirror shine on the 5/10 spokes (and if they were the castings and not the forgings)? not a chance with me ..polishing would cost me $300 set (those are friend prices too, plus $150 to ship them 500 miles). I ain't a player on this one unfortunately.
The center caps do have my attention. especially on the five spokes. Hard to find, in ANY condition. I also have all the parts for the B body (SS22L)300 wheels, including the center bracket .. but alas no car to put them on.
thanks for the heads up. guess we better get back to our regularly scheduled thread.
this one still available if anybody knows. still not a buyer, at any price, but also still like it.
$750 a set? without a mirror shine on the 5/10 spokes (and if they were the castings and not the forgings)? not a chance with me ..polishing would cost me $300 set (those are friend prices too, plus $150 to ship them 500 miles). I ain't a player on this one unfortunately.
The center caps do have my attention. especially on the five spokes. Hard to find, in ANY condition. I also have all the parts for the B body (SS22L)300 wheels, including the center bracket .. but alas no car to put them on.
thanks for the heads up. guess we better get back to our regularly scheduled thread
.this one still available if anybody knows. still not a buyer, at any price, but also still like it.
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73Coupe
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The 300 aluminum "road wheels" are nice, like I had on my previous '73 NYB. Forget the plastic insert, just outfit them with AMC style motor wheel domes and you're good to go. No trim rings required and no rusty, leaky bead seat. Half the weight of a steel road wheel.
