65 Sport Fury

[goodtoothdoc]

Greetings members. I am new to your forum. I am currently looking at a 65 Sport Fury with a 383 engine. Is is a 65,000 mile car. It has a single exhaust. Is that correct? For valuation purposes, Is this car a "commando 383 V8" car? Better said, Were all 383 cars Commando 383 cars and therefore worth more than their 318 Poly counterparts? Thank you, Clark Is there a code I look for on the plate on the driver's side inner fender under the hood?

 

[patrick66]

The 383 was the Commando engine, which was a Plymouth-only name. In '65, you should see a "Commando V-8" ornament on both fenders. The 318 was a Poly-head engine. Is your car a 2- or 4-barrel engine, from stock? A single exhaust was normal on a 361 or 383, with the duals being an option. All else being equal, a factory big block car will always be worth more than a 318 or 225 car in an identical condition. The fender tag will show what the car had originally. You'll see "41", "51", or "61" for a 361, 383-2, and 383-4 engine, respectively, IIRC. The VIN on a 1965 Mopar product will indicate the model, build plant and whether the car was a Six or V8.

 

[65 500]

That's interesting that you could get dual exhaust on a Fury with a 383, but not on a Polara with a 383. According to the parts book the only
Polaras with dual exhaust are the 413 police, and the 426 cars. I wonder why they would have done that. :thinker:

 

[commando1]

A 383-4 got duals no matter what car it sat in.

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[bluefury361]

A 383-4 got duals no matter what car it sat in.

Stan's right, duals were a part of the 383 HP, or Commando V8 package.

 

[65 500]

That's what I thought too, but according to the parts book they didn't. This is for the head pipes section. I didn't see any dual exhaust parts listed for a '65 Polara (D) with a 383 4-bbl. I don't know if you can make this bigger so that you can read it.

 

[goodtoothdoc]

The 383 was the Commando engine, which was a Plymouth-only name. In '65, you should see a "Commando V-8" ornament on both fenders. The 318 was a Poly-head engine. Is your car a 2- or 4-barrel engine, from stock? A single exhaust was normal on a 361 or 383, with the duals being an option. All else being equal, a factory big block car will always be worth more than a 318 or 225 car in an identical condition. The fender tag will show what the car had originally. You'll see "41", "51", or "61" for a 361, 383-2, and 383-4 engine, respectively, IIRC. The VIN on a 1965 Mopar product will indicate the model, build plant and whether the car was a Six or V8.

My 65 Sport Fury that I am considering is supposed to be a factory 2BBL car and that explains its single exhaust. I assume it is still considered a 383 Commando engine option for the purpose of determining its value using the Old Cars Price Guide? Is it probably a little less desirable than its 4 BBL dual exhaust counterpart? What are the horsepower differences between the two 383's?

 

[65 500]

270 and 315 horsepower.

 

[68plymouth383]

Welcome to the forum! !

 

[commando1]

Don't devalue the car for having a 383-2 unless you sincerely have the need for speed.
I've been it's advocate for many years as being the smoothest V8 ever offered, with good gas mileage, built like a block of granite for reliability, and a dream to work on. You can get them to idle like a Fuel Injected Lexus and give you smooth decent performance overall.

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[goodtoothdoc]

Thanks for your info. My 65 Sport Fury that I am looking at has a factory 383 with a 2bbl and single exhaust from the factory. I assume that is is still considered a "383 Commando" car for valuation purposes even though it only has the 2BBL and the single exhaust. Am I correct in making this assumption? Thanks for your help. Clark

 

[1978 NYB]

Welcome.....nice car.

 

[1978 NYB]

Any variant of a B or RB engine is very dependable.

 

[detmatt]

Welcome to the site from the Motor City! Any more info will require some pics and info from the fender tag.

 

[65 500]

I know the '67 383 2-bbl in a Fury was called a "Commando", not sure on the '65, not that it really matters, it doesn't change the engine any.

 

[commando1]

Like I said before, don't get hung up on the Commando thing.
It's for the most part just a label for Plymouth engines. The label Commando on an engine didn't maker it any different, special, or valuable.
The same engines in Dodges were called Magnums and TnT's in Chryslers.

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[mcmlvii]

I know the '67 383 2-bbl in a Fury was called a "Commando", not sure on the '65, not that it really matters, it doesn't change the engine any.

When I was a kid, we had a '66 Fury with the 383-2bbl. It had the Commando V8 fender badges (the same ones as are on my 383-4bbl car). The '65 383 (any variant) should be a Commando too. If the '65 that goodtoothdoc is looking at has fender badges, they would probably look like the photo below (much better looking than the '66 badges in my humble opinion):

 

[Joe Sportone]

Don't devalue the car for having a 383-2 unless you sincerely have the need for speed.
I've been it's advocate for many years as being the smoothest V8 ever offered, with good gas mileage, built like a block of granite for reliability, and a dream to work on. You can get them to idle like a Fuel Injected Lexus and give you smooth decent performance overall.

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I know this an older post but Commando is so right about the 383-2. Had one in my first C-Body. Idled so quietly and had some get up as well.