For Sale '73 New Yorker $1,000
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1970FuryConv
Old Man with a Hat
Nice Color. Fire at dash and firewall. Looks like a fire at the taillights too. If so, lucky the gas tank didn't blow up. High Price for car with all that damage. Too bad.
traintech55
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I may be wrong, but that looks like a Copart Information sticker on the windshield.
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Old Man with a Hat
I went to Copart.com to see if I could find this in a sold/completed auction, no luck, thought I've done that before.
So turned to google, found a few sites to find copart bidding sale history, no luck
But also what I did find was a lot of complaints about Copart on www.ripoffreport.com (47)
So turned to google, found a few sites to find copart bidding sale history, no luck
But also what I did find was a lot of complaints about Copart on www.ripoffreport.com (47)
traintech55
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Copart is a big auction site for insurance companies. I do not know how it works in every state, but if it was a donated vehicle, you can get a regular title, if it was a totaled vehicle, you will get a salvage title. In Indiana, you have to get it inspected by the police, and in Illinois You have to have it inspected by the Secretary of State.
In both states the title will be branded "REBUILT VEHICLE".
71Polara383
Kid with ballcap
Definitely a Copart car. Looks like a good parts car for someone.
In FL you MUST have a license to purchase from them. Other states vary, we have a dealer, wholesaler and rebuilder license available and there are brokers who will middle-man a transaction for you for a fee. There are some few cars offered through them with clean titles and open bidding, but I have never participated.
@65Fury440 may have some additional insights. There are occasional cars that would be worthwhile, but FL salvage is too jacked up, overall, to seem like a deal to me in most cases.
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Old Man with a Hat
Yes'sah! The laws of the fine 'Republic of Floriduh' were the laws of the rest of the nation don't count.
About flooded vehicles:
I remember seeing on the Mecum auction a late model Corvette come up that was announced that it was in a flood, forget if it was mention for the title purpose but in all my travels and memory I thought that flooded vehicles were never to be used on the road again, not even for parts and were to be totally scrapped (recycled).
Federal law? Back during a flooding incident in New Orleans post Katrina on the morning talk show yapfest they had a woman either a higher up in the Insurance Industry or from the Federal Government explain why flooded vehicles needed to be scrapped not just because of all the electronics that would be suspect for damage but because of the bio-hazard of raw sewage getting into every nook & cranny.
heh If you acid dipped the car I guess it could be clean but...
Salvage Title vs Totaled vehicles:
This may not apply to the rest of the nation, but up in the Northeast many moons ago to combat the Insurance fraud. If a Insurance Company would total a vehicle that all VIN numbers were to be cut/pried off the vehicle and turned into the state DMV with the title and the car was to be never put back on the road.
I can't remember when this 'Salvage Title' appeared. (this may vary state by state)
Reason why was if anyone that has traveled through NYC in the 70's & 80's on any of the high traveled divided highways you would most likely see stripped out hulks in your travels. At one time upon arriving in the city I saw a complete mid 70's Cadillac with it's LF headlight area stove'd back into the drivers door jam area (totaled) parked on the side of the BQE. Looked what likely was a fresh accident, still had the LR wheel cover on it, but no one was around.
Hmmmmm... In telling the person I was visiting about this he said "That's a fresh one" and explained the whole scam. Person buys totaled car in Jersey, resells/title/insures in NY, dumps car by side of high traveled road, car get stripped to the bone, reports car stolen, whoooa'la big insurance payout! City picks up shell and takes right to the docks to be loaded on a ship to be your next Nissan. Very efficient system he said.
Gotta love Amereekca!
Then there was the time after getting picked up at La Guardia, again on the BQE I saw a black 76 Gran fury by the side of the road like mine with it's hood up, I just had to yell 'HEY THAT'S MY CAR!!!', he he, I can still see 'dem two 'white eyes' as the head under the hood turned to look at us. LOL
About flooded vehicles:
I remember seeing on the Mecum auction a late model Corvette come up that was announced that it was in a flood, forget if it was mention for the title purpose but in all my travels and memory I thought that flooded vehicles were never to be used on the road again, not even for parts and were to be totally scrapped (recycled).
Federal law? Back during a flooding incident in New Orleans post Katrina on the morning talk show yapfest they had a woman either a higher up in the Insurance Industry or from the Federal Government explain why flooded vehicles needed to be scrapped not just because of all the electronics that would be suspect for damage but because of the bio-hazard of raw sewage getting into every nook & cranny.
heh If you acid dipped the car I guess it could be clean but...
Salvage Title vs Totaled vehicles:
This may not apply to the rest of the nation, but up in the Northeast many moons ago to combat the Insurance fraud. If a Insurance Company would total a vehicle that all VIN numbers were to be cut/pried off the vehicle and turned into the state DMV with the title and the car was to be never put back on the road.
I can't remember when this 'Salvage Title' appeared. (this may vary state by state)
Reason why was if anyone that has traveled through NYC in the 70's & 80's on any of the high traveled divided highways you would most likely see stripped out hulks in your travels. At one time upon arriving in the city I saw a complete mid 70's Cadillac with it's LF headlight area stove'd back into the drivers door jam area (totaled) parked on the side of the BQE. Looked what likely was a fresh accident, still had the LR wheel cover on it, but no one was around.
Hmmmmm... In telling the person I was visiting about this he said "That's a fresh one" and explained the whole scam. Person buys totaled car in Jersey, resells/title/insures in NY, dumps car by side of high traveled road, car get stripped to the bone, reports car stolen, whoooa'la big insurance payout! City picks up shell and takes right to the docks to be loaded on a ship to be your next Nissan. Very efficient system he said.
Gotta love Amereekca!
Then there was the time after getting picked up at La Guardia, again on the BQE I saw a black 76 Gran fury by the side of the road like mine with it's hood up, I just had to yell 'HEY THAT'S MY CAR!!!', he he, I can still see 'dem two 'white eyes' as the head under the hood turned to look at us. LOL
65Fury440
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Wow Lots to address here.
I have bought several cars and trucks from Coparts.
I drop units there, so I get in the back to see stuff
It is a minefield of bureaucracy and company policy.
Mostly good deals, old county trucks and such, but some shadiness as well.
There was a 69 SS396 Chevelle 4 speed that had rear damage, but really nice. I placed a bid one week. Next week when I returned, the big block 4 barrel and 4 speed had transformed into a 350 2 bbl with no trans.
From the people in the office, to the guys out back, trying to find someone WGAF is a challenge.
If you buy something from them, it would be wise to put eyes on it and document it.
As far as getting a salvage title, in FL, they are "rebuilt" titles, but I have only seen them, I'm not sure what the process is.
The posted car would have been a good snag, at most likely scrap price.
I have bought several cars and trucks from Coparts.
I drop units there, so I get in the back to see stuff
It is a minefield of bureaucracy and company policy.
Mostly good deals, old county trucks and such, but some shadiness as well.
There was a 69 SS396 Chevelle 4 speed that had rear damage, but really nice. I placed a bid one week. Next week when I returned, the big block 4 barrel and 4 speed had transformed into a 350 2 bbl with no trans.
From the people in the office, to the guys out back, trying to find someone WGAF is a challenge.
If you buy something from them, it would be wise to put eyes on it and document it.
As far as getting a salvage title, in FL, they are "rebuilt" titles, but I have only seen them, I'm not sure what the process is.
The posted car would have been a good snag, at most likely scrap price.
68PK21 440.6bbl
Old Man with a Hat
Yea I took a tour of their 'Bio-Hazard' section, at the time I saw quite a few Dream Muscle Cars destroyed.
One 61/62 Vette rollover with blood on the upholstery got me 'wondering if he survived it', then what am I looking at this for.
A few looking at all the bondo sticking out on the crushed fender/quarter panel were a laff thou.
One 61/62 Vette rollover with blood on the upholstery got me 'wondering if he survived it', then what am I looking at this for.
A few looking at all the bondo sticking out on the crushed fender/quarter panel were a laff thou.
65Fury440
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Also, while kind of on topic, here's a handy tool when buying out of state cars.
Storm cars from the hurricanes seem to go north, then back south to FL a lot.
There was a gang in my area that was doing this, and the cars were ending up on the little car lots in Tampa.
Insurance/ Stolen VIN check
VINCheck® | National Insurance Crime Bureau
Storm cars from the hurricanes seem to go north, then back south to FL a lot.
There was a gang in my area that was doing this, and the cars were ending up on the little car lots in Tampa.
Insurance/ Stolen VIN check
VINCheck® | National Insurance Crime Bureau
traintech55
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You know, we have been talking so much about Copart, I forgot to look at the pictures of the car again. Looking at all the fire damage to the back of the car, and the totally smoke windows, I bet this had a bad engine problem that turned the exhaust cherry red and that is what set fire to the car. If you were going to take this project on you would need a complete matching parts car, and totally strip this body down to the shell to get the fire smell out of it.
68PK21 440.6bbl
Old Man with a Hat
Washer Tank is TOAST!!... I'm out.
Just a general, poorly researched statement... but post Katrina flood cars brought about a bunch of news coverage for "washed titles" where the scumbags would cycle the title through whatever states that would lose the "flood" or "salvage" designation. As I understand it, they often went through more then one state on paper.
I don't know where the legislation was, or even what was written... but for many years after Katrina there was federal pressure on the states to clean up their titling policies. During this time, folks who used to provide titles for old cars without, seemed to go out of business or abandon this pat of their business. I have seen a comeback, but it's slow. I am assuming the legislation or campaign has expired and the pressure is off now.
Florida introduced "bonded titles" a while ago, and they can be used to solve some of the missing title issues for a price. Because this crap is governed at the state level... the rules will change anytime you cross state lines.
I welcome any corrections, but as I said... poorly researched... mostly gleaned from my conversations and occasional articles about the subject. This was mostly put forth as a "washed title" measure or a "anti theft" measure, but I have no sources I'm ready to quote.
I don't know where the legislation was, or even what was written... but for many years after Katrina there was federal pressure on the states to clean up their titling policies. During this time, folks who used to provide titles for old cars without, seemed to go out of business or abandon this pat of their business. I have seen a comeback, but it's slow. I am assuming the legislation or campaign has expired and the pressure is off now.
Florida introduced "bonded titles" a while ago, and they can be used to solve some of the missing title issues for a price. Because this crap is governed at the state level... the rules will change anytime you cross state lines.
I welcome any corrections, but as I said... poorly researched... mostly gleaned from my conversations and occasional articles about the subject. This was mostly put forth as a "washed title" measure or a "anti theft" measure, but I have no sources I'm ready to quote.
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