Bilstein Shock Question

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  1. 65Fury440

    65Fury440 Senior Member FCBO Gold Member

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    saylor Senior Member

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    thats mighty generous of you florida man. ill PM you i got to at least cover you for a pizza or something.
     
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    65Fury440 Senior Member FCBO Gold Member

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    No worries, as soon as they come off they can head to their new home.
    I expect the new shocks will be here this week.
     
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    PST Member FCBO Vendor

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    Our Bilstein shocks come from a company called RCD they are licensed by Bilstein and purchase blanks from bilstein and make the necessary mounting point modifications in order for them to be mounted in various vintage vehicles. It is not just one type of shocks that is used as they take into account vehicle size, weight and dimension on each model of vehicle when building the shocks. These too are covered by our lifetime warranty as well. Please let me know if you have any questions.

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  5. saylor

    saylor Senior Member

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    hey @James @PST i have a question about the lifetime warranty. does it apply to your front ends? i bought a complete front end kit in 02/14. around 07/24/19 i found that the bump stops had failed - they completely have fallen apart. i contacted PST. Yall wanted the account#, order#, date, and you wanted to me to send the parts back at my cost so yall could evaluate the failed parts to determine if a replacement was warranted. And you don't cover ' dry rot' whatever that is.

    As a comparison to other vendors on this forum, when dealing with cold-case, they sent me a wrong part. I notified them. They let me keep the wrong part, and shipped me the correct parts at their cost on priority, no questions asked.

    Another vendor, FURYGT, i bought a regulator from. It was DoA. I notified him. He sent me a replacement on his cost on priority, no questions asked.

    I work I.T. Im internal customer service to a nationwide company. I run a network of about 100 people across 3 buildings here in DFW. and all the servers and printers and email and switches and routers and firewalls and crap that go with it. I live and die by the customer service survey. I provide white glove customer service. "No" is not a word in my work vocabulary. Further, as a PST customer with firsthand experience, and a long time contributing member of this forum, I feel extremely qualified to speak about this.

    Out of the examples above, which would you prefer to be handled like?

    I put my 50yr old bump stops back on and will get poly replacements from summit.
     
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    Not to be dumb or stupid, but why is Bilstein shocks any better than say Gabriel shocks or Monro shocks. Please enlighten me.
     
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    i just ordered the kybs today. i did munroe OEM replacements between 2013 and now and one has failed already, and i drive sparingly, and like an old lady.

    tryin not to die in a corner -

    - saylor
     
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    65Fury440 Senior Member FCBO Gold Member

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    The gas charge in those KYB's is no joke. Be careful!

    Try not to pinch your fingers-
     
  9. polara71

    polara71 Old Man with a Hat

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    It depends on what you want. The Bilsteins will allow your car to handle much better in the turns, curves and woop-D-dos. The trade off is a harsher ride.
    A C body by nature should be a soft, smooth, floaty ride. The Bilsteins take that away ...
     
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    That is not a dumb question at all. I would start by saying Bilstein is not necessarily better, depends on what you want as Polara 71 said. But, the Bilstein is well built with a solid warranty. Yes, they are a firmer ride,
    but they are more predictable. Especially when you factor in the size and weight of a C body. Just an opinion though.
     
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    ImpJay The different young

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    The reason for that is not a difference in the valves, but a difference in the total length. The front shocks of Fuselage Imperials are shorter than what are designed for the other C-bodies and if I recall it correctly, we speak about 1-2".

    I replaced the front shocks of my 73 this winter and the Monroe OE Spectrums (p# 5811) will not go in place without dropping the lower control arm from the ball joint. The predecessors were also too long, but that was not felt in driving characteristics.
     
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    Just looked in the '72 parts book to look for differences in some things on the front suspension that might relate to the different lengths you mention. In the front suspension illustration, the lower control arms appear to be different, but didn't think to check the part numbers. The shocks appeared to be different in cosmetics, but what about the upper support the shocks mount to on the top? But with the same upper rubber isolators.

    Then I looked at the front "frame" picture. Confirmed that the '72 Imperial had the isolated "Crossmember #2" (their terminology), which the normal C-body cars didn't have that year. Wondering if that difference might result in the front shock absorber length issues mentioned?

    In looking in RockAuto for front shocks for a '72 Imperial, they are all the same length with a 4.0" stroke. Lengths didn't seem to vary more than .10" in extended length and similar on the compressed length. And they all went from 1965 or 1967 to 1973 model years.

    How much too long did the shocks appear to be on the Imperial?

    Just curious,
    CBODY67
     
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    ImpJay The different young

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    With the LCA intact, the bottom mounting loop didn't clear the control arm even when tilted outward from the car after removing the lower rubber bumper. I'd say close to half an inch when tilted and, logically, more when compressed straight up.

    The different front member could be the reason for this.
     
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