Hello from germany / 440 New Yorker

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Helo ladies an gentleman,

here comes my introduction and i'll introduce my Chrysler New Yorker:
Yeaaaa. I realize that the 1973 front isn't for everyone. Or the 4 doors. But for me it's just the right thing :)! The car is an 100% Survivor. Nothing changed, except the radio.
So far I haven't found anything that's messed up or screwed up. Paint original, vinyl roof ok except for 2 small spots (nothing crunchy), trunk no water ingress/rust.
~76,500 MLS, credible but not verifiable.

I live in germany (Koblenz) and bought my NY in April 2023. It came from Athol, Idaho to Europe in Dec. 2021 and got his german historic car licence in 2022.

Breakdown of VIN #
CS43 Chrysler / Special / 4 Door Hardtop
T3C (Engine / Model year / Assembly Plant) 440 1-4BBL / 1973 / Jefferson, MI, USA

production codes
V1W (Roof, Vinyl Top Color) Full Vinyl Top; W = White
HB1 (color) "Blue Sky"
H7B8 Trim / Body Style
JB9 Upper door / Frameless doors
928 scheduled production date
124179 Vehicle Order #
E85 440cu in 4 barrel V8
D34 Automatic Transmission A-727 HD TorqueFlite

Sales Codes / Options
R32 Dual Rear Speakers (works)
G11 tinted glass
M45 Fender Skirt / rear wheel arches covered
P31 Power Operated Windows (works)
P41 Power Door Locks (working)
S61 Tilt telesc.str. wheel (works)
H51 air conditioning (without function)
R48 Power Antenna (working)
L31 Hood/Fender Mounted Turn Signals (works)

More equipment
Ventilated (heated) rear window (working)
Power steering and brakes (working)
Cruise control (works)
Hazard warning lights original from the factory (works)
Warning buzzer seat belt not worn (works)
Warning buzzer light on (works)
Warning buzzer key is in (works)
Trunk unlocking electr. in the glove compartment (works)
Converted to DIN radio in 1989 (replaced, didn't worked)
New aluminum cooler
Good tires, 8x15 rims.

Flaws (what I've seen so far):
Maintenance backlog, dirty as usual, cracks in the armrests on the driver's side, cracks in the steering wheel, the exhaust is a US homebrew job (done pretty bad), a lot of rust film. Heating disconected - new heater core is already in my stock ;). I found it due to recommend from this forum.

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Pictures taken at the TÜV for an appraisal. Everything worked fine (except heating + air conditioning). He actually got a VIN engraved on the front of the frame, I hadn't even seen it before.
I'm amazed at how good it is after 50(!) years without a restoration :)
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The Big Block ist spending WAY to much gas (at least 11,48 Gallons per 100 mls(US)) The ignition adjustment via the vacuum unit works again (replaced it).

Ignition is flashed warm with transmission in N and ignition timing deducted. Well in cold and only 5min time he was at +5 degrees instead of -10. That COULD explain the thirst.
Distributor twisted a bit... flashed off...-10+/-2.5 check. Immediately run more powerfully. But could only test 1km.

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Then he got a dashboard cover for a fortune, because the original dashboard is still great after 50 years and should stay that way. I think the carpet is cool :D
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But WONDERFUL how the Americans marked that!

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Very very cool: got a lot of tools for free today :cheers: ! Saved from scrap, a lot of Hazet and Made in Germany!
Soooooooooooo far. I'm glad to hear from you! I wrote a letter to the last owner in the US and I hope he gets in touch. Greetings Manuel
 
Welcome Manuel!

Glad you found your way here. A lot of nice and competent people here! You will also find some people here that you already know from the German Mopar Forum.
I have rarely seen such a detailed introducing here! Have fun here and I'm sure you'll love this place...

Greetings from the neighborhood
Joerg
 
Helo Joerg,

I tried my best ;).

The elbow rest and the chronometer are broken, so I will soon open a request for this parts.

I forgot to tell: o started with GM (Opel) and stil owning an driving my first historic car I ever bought: An 1977 Opel (GM) Commodore B GS/E Coupé, Inline 6, 183 CUI @180HP, Manual 5.

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Welcome from a fellow CS43T3C owner! Thank you for posting about CS43T3C131368 -- matching numbers!

It would be great to see a photo of the full tag, but you have listed what is on it. HB1 with V1W top and H7B8 blue vinyl & Carlisle cloth inserts interior -- cool color combo. I see the H51 manual A/C, that will keep the cost of fixing it down :)

PS: you may find The 1973 Chrysler Thread interesting.

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There it is running... beautiful ❤️! Sounds like a car should sound. And that's just Y pipe single exhaust. I am planing to buy a 2,5" Dual exhaust from TTi.

 
Helo ladies an gentleman,

here comes my introduction and i'll introduce my Chrysler New Yorker:
Yeaaaa. I realize that the 1973 front isn't for everyone. Or the 4 doors. But for me it's just the right thing :)! The car is an 100% Survivor. Nothing changed, except the radio.
So far I haven't found anything that's messed up or screwed up. Paint original, vinyl roof ok except for 2 small spots (nothing crunchy), trunk no water ingress/rust.
~76,500 MLS, credible but not verifiable.

I live in germany (Koblenz) and bought my NY in April 2023. It came from Athol, Idaho to Europe in Dec. 2021 and got his german historic car licence in 2022.

Breakdown of VIN #
CS43 Chrysler / Special / 4 Door Hardtop
T3C (Engine / Model year / Assembly Plant) 440 1-4BBL / 1973 / Jefferson, MI, USA

production codes
V1W (Roof, Vinyl Top Color) Full Vinyl Top; W = White
HB1 (color) "Blue Sky"
H7B8 Trim / Body Style
JB9 Upper door / Frameless doors
928 scheduled production date
124179 Vehicle Order #
E85 440cu in 4 barrel V8
D34 Automatic Transmission A-727 HD TorqueFlite

Sales Codes / Options
R32 Dual Rear Speakers (works)
G11 tinted glass
M45 Fender Skirt / rear wheel arches covered
P31 Power Operated Windows (works)
P41 Power Door Locks (working)
S61 Tilt telesc.str. wheel (works)
H51 air conditioning (without function)
R48 Power Antenna (working)
L31 Hood/Fender Mounted Turn Signals (works)

More equipment
Ventilated (heated) rear window (working)
Power steering and brakes (working)
Cruise control (works)
Hazard warning lights original from the factory (works)
Warning buzzer seat belt not worn (works)
Warning buzzer light on (works)
Warning buzzer key is in (works)
Trunk unlocking electr. in the glove compartment (works)
Converted to DIN radio in 1989 (replaced, didn't worked)
New aluminum cooler
Good tires, 8x15 rims.

Flaws (what I've seen so far):
Maintenance backlog, dirty as usual, cracks in the armrests on the driver's side, cracks in the steering wheel, the exhaust is a US homebrew job (done pretty bad), a lot of rust film. Heating disconected - new heater core is already in my stock ;). I found it due to recommend from this forum.

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Matching Numbers!
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Pictures taken at the TÜV for an appraisal. Everything worked fine (except heating + air conditioning). He actually got a VIN engraved on the front of the frame, I hadn't even seen it before.
I'm amazed at how good it is after 50(!) years without a restoration :)
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The Big Block ist spending WAY to much gas (at least 11,48 Gallons per 100 mls(US)) The ignition adjustment via the vacuum unit works again (replaced it).

Ignition is flashed warm with transmission in N and ignition timing deducted. Well in cold and only 5min time he was at +5 degrees instead of -10. That COULD explain the thirst.
Distributor twisted a bit... flashed off...-10+/-2.5 check. Immediately run more powerfully. But could only test 1km.

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Then he got a dashboard cover for a fortune, because the original dashboard is still great after 50 years and should stay that way. I think the carpet is cool :D
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But WONDERFUL how the Americans marked that!

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Very very cool: got a lot of tools for free today :cheers: ! Saved from scrap, a lot of Hazet and Made in Germany!
Soooooooooooo far. I'm glad to hear from you! I wrote a letter to the last owner in the US and I hope he gets in touch. Greetings Manuel
Welcome. I was eying your car when it was up for sale. it did not present well at the time, but I see how wrong I was. Great looking NYB. Good luck. When setting the timing, try the vacuum gauge method to see what the engine wants for initial timing. Then you can get a distributor curved to run the timing your engine wants.
 
Welcome. I was eying your car when it was up for sale. it did not present well at the time, but I see how wrong I was. Great looking NYB. Good luck. When setting the timing, try the vacuum gauge method to see what the engine wants for initial timing. Then you can get a distributor curved to run the timing your engine wants.

Following the title it was sold for 3000$ in the USA, reached a value of ~7000€ due to transportation and duties and was sold with oil changed, historic licence (expensive over here) for 14.000€ in Germany.

Runs without vibration am drives very well. What bothered you while looking it?
 
Welcome! I live about an hours drive from Athol Idaho - not much there except a big roller coaster theme park. Very rural. Lots of fishing, mining and forestry.

Enjoy your car!
 
Thank you all. Yes I looked it up on Google. It has MANY rock chips (a hundred?) and the bottom is full of dust/dirt from the quarry next door. he does not lose oil (2-3 droplets). I am enjoying every Ride.
 
Now I gotta ask, have you tried the topspeed on the Autobahn? Thats one thing I miss from Germany...here we got that snail speed 55mph limit that I absolutely dont understand, everyone drives the same blocking all lanes!?. It felt great driving in nevada, there its at least 70mph.
 
No, not with the New Yorker...but with this nice guy we did our f...best to reach 300 kmh (186 mph!).

We also owe an 2019(?) Ford Mustang 305 (runs only about 155mph.

Wich is absolutely legal over here:D.

Even the regular "country roads" are limited to 62 mph.

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Little bit of a rant/observation here. As I was cruising along in my Imperial doing 75 mph, I passed very high dollar Challenger/Cuda builds a couple of 50s cars on the way to the Moparfest this weekend. I get the 50s flat heads not doing highway speeds. I do not understand builders giving customers cars that can't be driven comfortably and safely above 75 MPH, with transport truck on your *** because your blocking there slow lane. This drives me nuts. My 67 Coronet wagon I but together easily will sit in crawling traffic and cruise at 85 MPH until the tank is dry, then do it again. Is it because the customer tells the builder to make a shakey *** motor and it has to do a 20 yard burn out, but when you need to get somewhere you cant drive comfortably over 50/55 mph. Rant off.
 
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Helo Joerg,

I tried my best ;).

The elbow rest and the chronometer are broken, so I will soon open a request for this parts.

I forgot to tell: o started with GM (Opel) and stil owning an driving my first historic car I ever bought: An 1977 Opel (GM) Commodore B GS/E Coupé, Inline 6, 183 CUI @180HP, Manual 5.

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My '77 Opel Commodore was one of the first german cars with an top speed at 200 kmh (125mph), approved by the manufacturer. And you can drive it at this speed - it's build to do that :D
At that time with 4 Gears manual transmission. The TH180 automatic didn't reached that speed.
 
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