Meet Buttercup, a 1972 New Yorker Brougham 2-door Hardtop

Fuselage Years

  1. saforwardlook

    saforwardlook Old Man with a Hat FCBO Gold Member

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    That car should be a keeper IMO. Looks great and for my tastes, I really like the front end of that car a lot more than the 73s. I really like the color as well.
     
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    71Polara383 Kid with ballcap

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    After getting some spare keys cut, I stopped at this cool old building I spotted on the way to the locksmith for a pic.

    Neat key fob they had hanging right there too. Why not?

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    saforwardlook Old Man with a Hat FCBO Gold Member

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    Just a stunning looking vehicle and you know all the right angles and settings for taking great photos. That is indeed a great location for a photo.

    Henry Freeman former principal – RPL's Local History

    If Ayilar ends up letting it go, you should get it. Think of all the chicks you could pick up in that rig! :D

    Even I am getting some serious thoughts about that car! :realcrazy:
     
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    Don Stolfi Member

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    Beautiful! My father-in-law had a ‘73 New Yorker coupe the same color only with a white top - loved that car! Just didn’t have the cash at the time he parted with it.
     
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    71Polara383 Kid with ballcap

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    One of the projects that we have planned, is to replace the Vinyl top as it was worn and definitely needed to be replaced.

    Today I removed the trim from around the windows, used a razor to cut close to the drip rail to see what we are working with underneath. It looks excellent, no major rust or corrosion. It even gave us a look at how they let the assembly line worker know what color top to install...

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    ayilar Senior Member FCBO Gold Member

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    Now that everyone has seen Buttercup's V1Y tattoo, here's the issue with which I am grappling. My plan, going in, was to:

    1. remove the vinyl top (since it was toast);
    2. fix whatever rust Wyatt found underneath it;
    3. paint the roof (possibly in white, likely in GY4);
    4. and then -- after taking some photos of the painted top for posterity -- install the new vinyl top (for which, BTW, I still need to source a correct reproduction).

    --> Here is the question: given that the roof metal under Buttercup's old top is pretty much spotless (except at the LHS bottom corner, due to leaves that rotted under the bright rear-window moldings), is step 3 (repainting the whole top, as opposed to just the rust area and the rear window surround) overkill or a good insurance? When in doubt, I'd go for the latter.

    Comments welcome!

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    polara71 Old Man with a Hat

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    leave it. Its not a outdoor car anymore.
     
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    Fix the rust and paint the entire top.
     
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    I'm two years into a new vinyl top project that has yet to start, so great timing (waiting on SMS). So if you plan on sourcing a new top from them, you might be going around bald for a few years.....

    @71Polara383 - how are the glass and drip rail trim removed?

    So @ayilar you're thinking of going away from the butterscotch color?
     
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    Nope. The GY4/V1Y combination works very well. White would be nice too, but the original V1Y looks great to me and works well with the black interior.

    The idea here is to protect the underside, just in case the car stays outside at some point. Unlikely, but I don't want to have to worry. By painting it GY4 underneath, my idea is to also take a photo of what the car would have looked like without a vinyl top.
     
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    71Polara383 Kid with ballcap

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    Even if it sat outside...look how bad the whole roof rusted in the 48 years its been like this...oh wait it held up perfectly with the exception of the one corner that trapped dirt/moisture.
     
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    71Polara383 Kid with ballcap

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    The drip rail trim is riveted. I am not looking forward to removing it.

    The glass trim is pretty simple, just have to be careful and you can't pry it up thats when you will start hurting the trim.
     
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    I'm not one to leave any surface unpainted or unprotected, I'd paint it. If you are having the whole car done, then leave the V-top for the very last. I would, however, ask the trim shop if there is any drawback to having the roof painted with the type of adhesives they use, that might help you make a decision.
     
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    Thats IF it sat outside at all which is unlikely
     
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    Starting in 1990, when the previous owner acquired the car (precisely, when his stepson bought it for him as a 60th bday gift), the car was kept inside. In the last year, however, it was kept outside under a carport -- and it is very obvious, from the slight surface rust at the edge of the fender signal repeaters and from the deterioration of the vinyl top itself, that it does not take too much to get some deterioration on those cars. That is why I am seriously considering a repaint of the top -- the rest of the car has a nice patina, but the top needs fixed and my thinking is I might as well do it "forever" (not just for the next 20 years), i.e., paint + vinyl on top of the paint.
     
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    I've been searching the www for a key fob like that. Only with "Chrysler Newport" on it. Are they available there ?
     
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    polara71 Old Man with a Hat

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    E bay, the big swaps like Carlisle and Jessers keys in Ohio used to sell EVERYTHING key related
     
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    Then if thats what you wanna do there is no question is there...
     
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    On a complete restoration I always painted the entire roof even on a vinyl top car. If you're painting the whole car I'd paint the roof too. Another quart of paint and a little extra prep time is no big deal. If you're not painting the whole car I'd fix the small spots and epoxy primer it and call it good.
     
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    My thoughts exactly. If it was getting a full repaint...absolutely.