If I didn't already have more crap than space, I'd be raiding my dad's stash of HO goodies. He grabbed a bunch of Proto 1000 rolling stock over a decade ago, and has always been getting motive power and rolling stock throughout the years when I was growing up. Only had a loop on a table, that's the most I ever saw for a layout. He built a folding wall in our basement that was going to be an alternative, but then he and my mom decided an addition would be nice, since he got a hearty bonus at work for a project. He now had a room for.his layout! Kind of an A shaped space, to be three levels with a helix in one corner. Then he got layed off. He busted his ass for that corporation, worked a ton (60-80) of hours each and every week. This is how I learned everyone is expendable, even the guy who gets results. So the room first got filled with boxes from work, then with other stuff, then with crap. I was hoping to help with the landscaping in the layout, to help develope my skills for dioramas, but Dad fell into a funk and started buying crap to fill the void. He still has all the stuff packed in the basement but getting to it is a challenge. I hope he clears out the mess and starts building something, he is retirement age, but still looks for work, but he should be making that layout he always wanted. Maybe I should forward this thread to him... Thanks for letting me follow along through your ever expanding layout, Zac! And the others that have chined in, I never get tired of watching trains in action!