Voyager 1 and 2 still alive!!!! 38,000 mph!

**Helion Energy's fusion reactor produced electricity from controlled star power for the first time**

Helion Energy, based in the U.S., announced in mid-2025 that it had successfully tested its seventh-generation fusion prototype, Polaris. The company claims the reactor has produced electricity directly from fusion reactions, a major milestone if verified independently. This isn't just scientific achievement – it's the first step toward unlimited clean energy.

Unlike previous fusion experiments that consumed more energy than they produced, Polaris generates net positive electricity from controlled fusion reactions. The reactor fuses helium-3 and deuterium at temperatures exceeding 100 million degrees Celsius, creating conditions similar to the core of the sun but contained within a machine smaller than a building.

What makes this breakthrough revolutionary is the direct energy conversion. Instead of using fusion heat to boil water and turn turbines like traditional power plants, Polaris converts fusion energy directly into electricity through magnetic field interactions. This eliminates energy losses associated with thermal conversion, making the process dramatically more efficient.

The technology could provide virtually unlimited clean energy without radioactive waste, carbon emissions, or dependence on rare materials. If scaled commercially, fusion power could generate electricity cheaper than any current source while being completely safe – fusion reactions automatically stop if containment is lost.

Helion plans commercial fusion power plants within a decade, potentially solving climate change through abundant clean energy.

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That thing is sooo cool! I hope this pans out.

Now, if we could just figure out how to actually store the energy,,,,....
 
high-level details (a little nerdy, heres an 8 minute video of flight 11 just completed--summay of what wants vs what they need from V3) of v3; .

tricky stuff.
 
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yerterday the "other guy" shows how he's (Bezos) going to Mars. Despite their collective success, i am getting hard-over on the idea of unmanned flights to Mars. Save the money. And lives. keep the cool tecnology.

Blue Origin launches twin Mars probes for NASA as New Glenn makes first landing – Spaceflight Now.
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3 minute vid of booster landing for reuse. happpens about halfway.

I’m torn on unmanned only efforts.
I agree that there’s a TON of work that can be done remotely. However, humans can do more than robots.
 
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I am well into my seventh decade as a space nerd. love sci-fy. love james webb telescope and the like. my pin ups as a kid were the Mercury astronauts. i am starting to believe the Fermi_paradox.
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No doubt we are better explorers than the machines we send, and its probably true, AI notwithstanding, for hundreds of years. well beyond my grandkids, and their kids, lifetimes.

As air breathers, we aint gonna evolve for billions if ever to live on Mars or anywhere else without oxygen, so figure out better ways to live on this rock.

let's figure out how to harvest Mars for whatever makes life better here. i just feel smart machines could do that harvesting as well as any man and save society's money and risk of death.

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On December 6, 1957, America’s first attempt to launch a satellite into space went up in flames after rising just four feet off the launchpad.

The event happened at Cape Canaveral in Florida, with the whole world watching. The United States was scrambling to catch up after the Soviet Union had successfully launched Sputnik 1 and 2.



The rocket, called Vanguard TV-3, was meant to be America's answer. Instead, it lifted slightly, lost thrust, and collapsed into a massive fireball just two seconds after ignition.



The press had a field day. They mockingly nicknamed the failed rocket “Kaputnik,” “Flopnik,” and “Stayputnik.” It was a moment of national embarrassment during the tense Cold War.



Newspapers printed headlines telling the government to “Keep quiet until something is orbiting.” The pressure on American scientists and engineers was immense.



But this public failure had an important consequence. It forced a shift in strategy away from the Navy's Vanguard project to the Army's Jupiter-C rocket program, which had been developed in parallel.



Fueled by the sting of the Vanguard disaster, the Army's team, led by Wernher von Braun, worked quickly.



Just two months later, on January 31, 1958, they successfully launched Explorer 1, America’s first satellite, into orbit. The 'Kaputnik' failure, while humiliating, ultimately paved the way for America's entry into the Space Race.

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Every thing we see in space from earth is moving. Most of all of it is too far away to see such movement. Things like the sun, the moon, the planets, etc, that we can SEE moving, are IN our solar system (i.e., our sun and everything going around it, a huge space on human scale but cosmically quite small).

We now have found the THIRD thing (first thing was "Oumuamua" in 2017, the second was "2I/Borisov" discovered in 2019) that appears to be IN ("passing through") our solar system, but came from OUTSIDE (from some other "sun") of it. It gets here in October this year and it's a comet named 3l/ATLAS. (pronounced "three - eye - atlas")

It is NOT even remotely going to hit us on this pass through (closest approach to eath is 150 million miles, inside the orbit of Mars, but the Earth and Mars aare far apart when it gets here.).

Our sun's gravity will "bend" its trajectory, something else will affect it after it passes through. Or, it may crash into something, and its trek through the universe will end.

Basically, we found it in all that space/dots of light out there because its going 137,000 MPH, too fast and too far away for OUR sun to be doing that to it ... it got here with time, at a trajectory, that something else/somewhere else got it all moving (e.g., ejected from some OTHER solar system in the Milky Way, or [unlikely] another galaxy?).

Anyway, a lot of explanation at these rather nerdy sources if one wants to dig deeper into the following images: Interstellar invader Comet 3I/ATLAS is packed with water ice that could be older than Earth

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Comet 3I/Atlas: Astronomers spot object that's travelled from outside the Solar System

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now that govt is open, yesterday NASA released official photos is something flying by from another solar system.

There may be other things later, nothing that can kill us that we know of, but we ain't gonna see this again. closest it gets to earth is 167 million miles next month. still too far away toget great analysis.

that assumes this is a flying rock and not an alien spaceship. no doubt to me its a rock! since it aint from around here, it would be cool if we could study what its actually made of compared to Earth.

Comet 3I/ATLAS – frequently asked questions

https://nypost.com/2025/11/19/nasa-releases-new-high-res-images-of-manhattan-sized-interstellar-object-3i-atlas/

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assumes this is a flying rock and not an alien spaceship
Your assessment that its a flying rock is on the money. In fact all the hype otherwise is just a distraction. Intentional? I'll avoid that rabbit hole here. In any case I've always felt the odds of us being alone in the universe are pretty slim. Its always nice when someone way smarter than me agrees.
 
Your assessment that its a flying rock is on the money. In fact all the hype otherwise is just a distraction. Intentional? I'll avoid that rabbit hole here. In any case I've always felt the odds of us being alone in the universe are pretty slim. Its always nice when someone way smarter than me agrees.

i am a fan of probabilty and i like Hossenfelder when she aint dumpin' on the scientists.

I dig the the logic here, i vote they (e.g. another species) are just too far away. Will we find out in my lifetime? I doubt it but I keep hoping.:) i still got high hopes for Jimbo Webb (and other stuff in the queue)in the IR range.
 
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Voyager 1 and 2 still alive!!!! 38,000 mph!

over a year ago here but longer ago for me - a space nerd. NASA was gonna try to intercept an asteroid and bring back a sample to Earth. Bennu - NASA Science
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Well last summer, seven years later, they actually did it last summer and analyzed the material they brought back. They found same of the same materials (e.g., amino acids, carbon chains, salts, etc.) ,in our bodies.

i wont bore yall with the details but what it may confirm that that stuff came to the primordial Earth from the stuff striking the Earth few billion years ago. Or the Earth formed from materials that became the Earth and the "leftovers' are still floating around in asterioids and moons.

Depending on what people believe as the to how "life" got here (a deity did it, or billions of years time and bio-chemistry did it), in my islifetime the evidence suggests the latter (same as we discovered the sun doesnt orbit the earth and other things science disproved in the last 600 years), "life" is all over the Universe.

Sophisticated enough like us to build the Voyagers? Who knows. Why have'nt they contacted us?

A deity did it? Evidence says "no". my family ain't inviting me to Thanksgiving dinner next year: i tore my a** yesterday.:poke:

Think about it. Everywhere we look, billions of miles/years from us, the chemistry/compounds for us are there. i hope we make it to the ocean on Europa(Jupiter) Europa Clipper - NASA Science in 2030 (blink of an eye):)

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February 5, 2026, we're going back to moon on Artemis Ii. however, like Apollo 8, we are not gonna land on the moon, mainly testing the system for the next flight when we land. More distance traveled by any astronauts in history in one flight given the trajectory/flight path.

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lotta nerdy stuff im leaving out but the link can elucidate. Having been alive and old enough to remember Apollo 8 in real time, in 1968, i still now that i am an old man, i object to human spaceflight to the moon let alone ultimately Mars.

Artemis II - Wikipedia Artemis II - Wikipedia.

we aint never gonna live in space. We (society) dont need to spend trillions to find that out when the answer is clear. Better uses of our energies exist i think - but again thats another thread in the politics forum. This ain't the go-go 60's and 70's anymore.

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Off my soapbox, still a remarkable achievement by all involved. You dig in to the details and its astounding what the spacekids have done, Elon included. Given this is our (society's) direction for now, job well done. let's hope things go well and we do this thing and don't kill anybody.

Stay tuned.
 
Think of #807 another way.

one day, in untold thousands/millions of years, the V'gers (now that they have left our solar system and entered interstellar space) are gonna pass through some other solar system and THEIR space kids (assuming there's capable "life", if any, on any of THAT sun's planets) are gonna say "WTF is that" and then they'll figure out "that thing aint from 'round here". :poke:.

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And the good news is that Carl Sagans Golden Record, on V'Ger (TOS Star Trek), will endure the near vacuum of interstellar space for hundreds of billions of years henceforth. Assuming its only hit by the occassional atom or molecule, rather than anything larger, far future lifeforms ought to be able to play the gold coated aluminium disc, and learn about our civilisation, billions or trillions of years from now, long after the Earth is a burnt remnant, and the Sun has exhausted its hydrogen.
What I would give to know the final destination or end point of our Voyager probes in the far far distant future.
To be able to see their final outcome would be beyond fascinating.
Language hasnt the words to describe the fascination of such an outcome to me.
 
V'Gers coming up on a milestone. the only things a light-day (16 billion miles) away. only took nearly 50 years.:) On November 13, 2026, A Human-Made Object Will Reach One Light-Day From The Earth . On November 13, 2026, A Human-Made Object Will Reach One Light-Day From The Earth For The First Time In History

even all the planets and with fictional warp drive, Star Trek takes place 300 years from mow and only in this galaxy (assumed). they have episodes about reaching a energy barrier at the galaxy's "edge". The Voyagers have proven the scy-fy to be wrong. they went past edge of Milky Way last year.:) No barrier.

hence my conundrum. As much as raw math/ statistics say otherwise, i conclude we may be alone in the Universe. Space is big and even with sci-fi propulsion not yet possible, we cant even leave this galaxy in less than 40 years at 38,000 mph - just one of trillions of galaxies. stuff is too far apart and we cant go fast enough and dont live long enough. not to mention we cant protect ourselves from interstellar radiation that unravels biological dna.

maybe all the pitfalls have a technical solution(s). maybe there are "people" who solved all that, but because the universe is also so old and dangerous (stuff blowing up or crashing into each other, etc.,) those "people" are gone. just as we will naturally be in time as you note. granted, absent a catastrophe we caused, the sun will run its life,-cycle and do its thing and in its death throes incinerate the earth. whoever is still here (maybe billions of us) will surely die. especially bad if we are truly unique (sending V'gers, making telescopes, broadcasting EM signals at light-speed for decades, etc.,) as well.

All that potential going wrong, those risk numbers suggest we'll never run into (meet) any living things with our remarkable V'Gers or Jim Webbs. i hope we do. But its likely to take thousands of years and no matter what i aint gonna live long enough to find out.:rolleyes:
 
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