Buick's made in China to sell in the USA

[1978 NYB]

Well fella's.....pretty soon we won't be making any cars in the USA. Buick is making these cars in China (probably out of melted down Mopar's) and these are going to be eventually sold in the USA. Unless Trump get's elected...

The argument again is where does the money go??? Mopar is owned by Italy, Buick's built in China, how many cars are made in Mexico and Canada. So how can anyone say that you support American made when just about every damn thing is being produced outside the USA or most of the parts are produced outside the USA.

At least my Titan is made in Canton, Mississippi by USA workers. Every part of Titan is made in the USA except the transmission.

http://media.gm.com/media/cn/en/gm/.../Pages/news/cn/en/2015/april/0419_avenir.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Titan

 

[patrick66]

The Buicks built in China are built for their domestic market and NOT for US or Canada sale. Look at any VIN - any vehicle manufactured in China will have an "L" as the first character of the VIN as the country of origin.

That article quoted talks about the new Buick being debuted at the Shanghai Auto Show.

By you buying that Titan, aren't YOU being a bit hypocritical by buying a truck from a Japanese company, regardless of where it was built? Buy a Toyota truck? Built in San Antonio, TX. Buy a Cummins Dodge? Built in Toluca, Mexico. BMW? Could be Germany, Mexico, or the US. Point is, ALL automakers are situated worldwide for sales and point of assembly/manufacture. It really doesn't matter anymore, quite honestly. The days of a Chevy or a Chrysler being fully made in the US or Canada, or a Nissan in Japan, or a BMW in Germany are long, long gone.

 

[1978 NYB]

The Buicks built in China are built for their domestic market and NOT for US or Canada sale. Look at any VIN - any vehicle manufactured in China will have an "L" as the first character of the VIN as the country of origin.

That article quoted talks about the new Buick being debuted at the Shanghai Auto Show.

Sorry wrong article........notice the front license plate.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/buick-...ly-coming-to-u-s-plus-a-subcompact-hatch-too/

 

[1978 NYB]

On the same note.....

Another Buick built in Europe going be sold in the USA in 2016....

http://www.buick.com/cascada-luxury-convertible.html

 

[kellycom]

there is no such thing as an American car anymore. You can say American assembled. But cars use parts sourced from all over the globe.

 

[1978 NYB]

Another article on the China built Buick already testing in the USA...

http://www.caranddriver.com/photo-g...r-caught-testing-in-the-u-s-is-it-headed-here

 

[1978 NYB]

Another article.... the UAW isn't happy.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/bu...otors/2015/08/18/uaw-buick-envision/31912469/

 

[1978 NYB]

there is no such thing as an American car anymore. You can say American assembled. But cars use parts sourced from all over the globe.

A lot of them aren't even assembled here anymore......

 

[mr. fix it]

You have to honestly ask yourselves here how many years the big 3 have been importing parts to install on the American cars.
Back in the 80's in the so ever reliable Ford Tempo was running around is when i got used to replacing so many Nippendenso A/C systems!

It sure kept me busy during the summer months.
What about the Mr. Bitchy engine Dodge used in the K car platforms back in the 70's even?

Remember the Dodge Colt's??

You should do search of the Japanese used car market and you will find Chevy Cavaliers being sold as Toyota's...

Now that I'm on a roll, what about the wonderful Chevy small block V8's built in Mexico back again in the early 80's with the camshafts that if they made 40,000 were doing great for longevity? I can't tell you how many camshaft jobs I did on those V8's

The UAW was freaking out back then that they had lost so many engine plant jobs to the south of the border...

 

[amazinblue82]

"The order is rapidly fadin', and the first one now will later be last, For the times they are a-changin" - Bob Dylan

The economics of vehicle manufacturing in full view. Yeah times are changing.

These car companies folks gotta do what they gotta do to make money with increasing TRUE globalization of the industry. Looks like rational behavior to me.

Like others above have said, car companies have been doing this stuff for a LONG time, with mixed results, but we can expect MORE and MORE of it i believe in the decade ahead.

We still get to decide who we wanna buy from based on whatever reasons we each have - where its assembled, where the parts come from, etc.

For me, I just want good quality vehicles that do what they say, last a long time, are relatively trouble-free, and affordable ;).

 

[1978 NYB]

"The order is rapidly fadin', and the first one now will later be last, For the times they are a-changin" - Bob Dylan

The economics of vehicle manufacturing in full view. Yeah times are changing.

These car companies folks gotta do what they gotta do to make money with increasing TRUE globalization of the industry. Looks like rational behavior to me.

Like others above have said, car companies have been doing this stuff for a LONG time, with mixed results, but we can expect MORE and MORE of it i believe in the decade ahead.

We still get to decide who we wanna buy from based on whatever reasons we each have - where its assembled, where the parts come from, etc.

For me, I just want good quality vehicles that do what they say, last a long time, are relatively trouble-free, and affordable ;).

I hear you....I just want a reliable vehicle too.

I try to support the military first with my spend dollars (APG Commissary, Wounded Warriors Project, Red Cross, AER) then my local community, county, state.

 

[bluefury361]

It's all a moot point here. There will never be another NEW vehicle in my yard again.

 

[67Monaco]

The Buicks built in China are built for their domestic market and NOT for US or Canada sale. Look at any VIN - any vehicle manufactured in China will have an "L" as the first character of the VIN as the country of origin.

That article quoted talks about the new Buick being debuted at the Shanghai Auto Show.

By you buying that Titan, aren't YOU being a bit hypocritical by buying a truck from a Japanese company, regardless of where it was built? Buy a Toyota truck? Built in San Antonio, TX. Buy a Cummins Dodge? Built in Toluca, Mexico. BMW? Could be Germany, Mexico, or the US. Point is, ALL automakers are situated worldwide for sales and point of assembly/manufacture. It really doesn't matter anymore, quite honestly. The days of a Chevy or a Chrysler being fully made in the US or Canada, or a Nissan in Japan, or a BMW in Germany are long, long gone.

It kind of does matter, since the Jap cars are employing more and more American workers at good wages. Conversely the American auto companies seem to be hiring more and more "off-shore". I'd rather send my money to a Jap company if a part of that is going to American workers rather than a company that is American in name only.

 

[patrick66]

You are not going to see Chinese-built GM, Chrysler or Ford products in the US. FCA is building Cherokees in China, Austria and Canada, as an example. Like I said, these days, it really does NOT matter where the car and parts are assembled.

 

[patrick66]

Sorry wrong article........notice the front license plate.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/buick-...ly-coming-to-u-s-plus-a-subcompact-hatch-too/

If this actually DOES come to the US (a BIG if!)...again, what does it matter, to quote an infamous current Presidential candidate. It has to meet US standards, it's a US company building it, and a US company and their shareholders benefit from that; so shouldn't that make you happy as a clam???

Look at the VIN - First character is "L", don't buy it. Too easy.

 

[Ironwolf]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2014/06/30/carscom-american-made-index-ford-f150/11774335/

As Americans struggle despite a reviving economy, a tough pickup truck straight out of Detroit was named Monday as the leader on Cars.com's American-Made Index.
Second place may come as a surprise: Toyota Camry. Although it's made by a Japanese company — and the profits are shipped across the Pacific — the car is made at U.S. plants with mostly U.S. parts.
The American-Made Index, in its ninth year, rates cars based on two key pieces of information that can be found on the window stickers of every new car: final assembly point and the vehicle's domestic-parts content. The labels show the percentage of U.S. and Canadian parts. (By congressional mandate, the American Automobile Labeling Act lumps Canada into the same "domestic" pool.) In addition to showing where the car was built, the label will tell you where its engine and transmission were made, as well.
It doesn't hurt that Ford's F-150 and its heavy-duty variants are, together, the nation's top-selling vehicle of any sort. Toyota Camry is the top-selling car in the USA.
After F-150 and Camry come GM's Michigan-built three-row crossover siblings, Buick Enclave, Chevrolet Traverse and GMC Acadia. Dodge Avenger sedan, meanwhile, placed third last year but faces immediate discontinuation without a clear successor and is disqualified.




Ford's F-150 topped Toyota Camry in Cars.com's most "American-made" vehicles ranking, but Japanese automakers took 7 of the 10 spots. Fred Katayama reports. Video provided by Reuters Newslook

The 2014 list has four newcomers: the Chevrolet Corvette, Honda Ridgeline, Honda Crosstour and Dodge SRT Viper. This is the first year any of those have made the list.
That's because only these 10 cars were eligible for the index, the fewest in the study's nine-year history. For the 2014 model year, just 13 models assembled in the USA have domestic-parts content of 75% or higher, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Three of those, including the Avenger, were disqualified because they're being discontinued.
In the 2013 model year, 14 cars met that threshold. Twenty cars met the threshold in the 2012 model year, and 30 cars met it a year before that.
Here's the 2014 list by model and where it is manufactured:
1. Ford F-150; Dearborn, Mich., and Claycomo, Mo.
2. Toyota Camry; Georgetown, Ky., and Lafayette, Ind.
3. Honda Odyssey; Lincoln, Ala.
4. Toyota Sienna; Princeton, Ind.
5. Toyota Tundra; San Antonio
6. Toyota Avalon; Georgetown, Ky.
7. Chevrolet Corvette Stingray; Bowling Green, Ky.
8. Honda Ridgeline; Lincoln, Ala.
9. Honda Crosstour; East Liberty, Ohio
10. Dodge SRT Viper; Detroit

 

[Ironwolf]

https://media.ford.com/content/ford...plus-us-jobs-starts-F650-F750-production.html

[h=4]Aug 12, 2015 | AVON LAKE, Ohio[/h] [h=1]Ford Secures 1,000-Plus U.S. Jobs, Starts Production of All-New Ford F-650/F-750 Medium-Duty Trucks in Ohio[/h]

• Ford kicks off production of 2016 F-650/F-750 for the first time in the United States; medium-duty truck lineup – previously assembled in Mexico – now built at Ohio Assembly Plant
• All-new F-650/F-750 medium-duty truck production shift to Ford’s facility in Avon Lake, Ohio, helps to secure more than 1,000 UAW hourly jobs and $168 million U.S. plant investment
• 2016 Ford F-650/F-750 trucks, available this summer, deliver commercial-grade quality, capability and convenience, and feature segment-exclusive Ford diesel and gasoline engines, delivering strong performance at an affordable price

Ohio Assembly Plant Fact Sheet

AVON LAKE, Ohio, Aug. 12, 2015 – All-new Ford F-650/F-750 medium-duty trucks roll off the line today for the first time in the United States. Production of the trucks at Ohio Assembly Plant, previously built in Mexico, helps secure more than 1,000 hourly UAW jobs and a $168 million plant investment in the United States.
2016 F-650/F-750 trucks, the toughest, smartest, best-value medium-duty trucks ever, anchor Ford’s commercial vehicle lineup – America’s best-selling commercial trucks for 30 straight years. Ford is the only truck manufacturer that provides vocational customers an unmatched one-stop shop to meet their needs – from the Class 1 Transit Connect cargo van to the Class 7 F-750 tractor rig.
“Our investment in Ohio Assembly Plant reinforces our commitment to building vehicles in America and to delivering best-in-class commercial trucks,” said Joe Hinrichs, Ford president, The Americas. “Working with our partners in the UAW, we found a way to make the costs competitive enough to bring production of a whole new generation of work trucks to Ohio.”
Offered in Regular Cab, SuperCab and Crew Cab body styles and in straight-frame, dock-height and an all-new dedicated tractor model for heavy towing applications, the 2016 F-650/F-750 line features a bold new look inside and out.
Ford is the only medium-duty truck manufacturer that designs and builds its own diesel engine and transmission combination – ensuring the powertrain will work seamlessly with all chassis components and vehicle calibrations.
Along with its 6.7-liter Power Stroke[SUP]®[/SUP] V8 diesel engine option, Ford remains the only automaker to offer a gasoline-powered engine in the medium-duty truck segment. The 6.8-liter V10 with 320 horsepower and 460 lb.-ft. of torque now will be available for both F-650 and F-750 models with the heavy-duty TorqShift six-speed automatic transmission. The 6.8-liter can be factory-prepped for converting to compressed natural gas or liquid propane gas as cost-effective alternatives to gasoline.
Ohio Assembly Plant investment
In 2014, Ford announced a $168 million investment to shift production of F-650 and F-750 from Mexico to Ohio Assembly Plant, in addition to adding new body shop equipment and other tooling needed to produce the medium-duty vehicles. The production shift from Mexico is part of the collective bargaining agreement Ford and the United Auto Workers negotiated in 2011.
"Through collective bargaining, we were able to secure production of the Ford F-650/F-750 to Ohio Assembly Plant,” said Jimmy Settles, UAW vice president and director, National Ford Department. “Building these world-class vehicles in America helps secure jobs for more than 1,000 UAW members and provides economic growth for the Avon Lake community. Strengthening the economy through job creation continues our efforts to rebuild the American middle-class and communities all across this nation.”
Opened in 1974, Ohio Assembly Plant employs nearly 1,400 people and is one of the largest employers in Lorain County. In addition to now producing all Ford F-650 and F-750 models and configurations, the plant also produces Ford E-Series cutaway vans and stripped chassis.
Toughest, smartest, best-value Ford medium-duty truck ever
2016 Ford F-650/F-750 trucks are the toughest, smartest, best-value Ford medium-duty trucks ever – providing the ideal combination of value, capability and upfit readiness in the segment.
These attributes underscore the F-650/F-750’s position as the future of medium-duty trucks:

• Toughest: Fully designed and developed by Ford truck engineers in Dearborn, Mich.; robot-tested on taxing durability courses; 500,000-plus miles of harsh dynamometer engine testing at extreme power levels and temperatures; Ford-built in the U.S.
• Smartest: All-new upfit-friendly chassis developed in cooperation with leading industry body makers; clean chassis capable of accommodating vocational bodies with little to no modification; all-new dedicated tractor model for heavy towing
• Best value: Choice of segment-exclusive 6.8-liter V10 gas engine or 6.7-liter Power Stroke V8 diesel – both backed by Ford’s heavy-duty TorqShift six-speed automatic transmission enhanced for medium-duty use with great power, performance and fuel economy; includes unsurpassed five-year/250,000-mile warranty and national network of Ford service centers

More information regarding the all-new 2016 Ford F-650/F-750 lineup can be found here.



[h=3]About Ford Motor Company[/h] Ford Motor Company, a global automotive industry leader based in Dearborn, Michigan, manufactures or distributes automobiles across six continents. With about 195,000 employees and 66 plants worldwide, the company’s automotive brands include Ford and Lincoln. The company provides financial services through Ford Motor Credit Company. For more information regarding Ford and its products worldwide, please visit http://corporate.ford.com.

 

[furyus 67]

My time at the lake Orion plant in MI building Malibus/g6 I couldn't believe the amount of small parts boxes that had zero English words! All Chinese .

 

[polara66hardtop]

The problem with any Chinese affiliation, is such a large percentage of the profits from these American companies are Financing the Chinese military. One day it will come to a head, and It won't be pretty. Our Gov't has to be dumber than a box of rocks.

 

[78Brougham]

On the same note.....

Another Buick built in Europe going be sold in the USA in 2016....

http://www.buick.com/cascada-luxury-convertible.html

Finally! A decent looking Buick. Looks like the grill off of Chrysler!