SOTU

I didn't think I would be agreeing with George Carlin, but he got it right. Personally I would like to see both the Democratic and Republican parties disappear along with our present drama queen President who focuses on too many of the wrong things (mostly himself).

Are all these politicians and other idiots really the best this country can do? We are becoming a joke to the rest of the world. And that is dangerous.

DTJ is hardly a traditional Republican. 3rd Party candidates are punchlines in this country. DJT hi-jacked an out-of-touch Republican party, stepped on the heads of his weak opponents, campaigned wisely... and as we learned today, overcame powerful Federal agencies that had been unlawfully turned against him.

Those same agencies would have been turned against Polite J. Niceguy. That should anger you; not the fact that DJT isn't a "smooth" politician.

As far as I'm concerned, this nation was dying in a desert. Somebody handed us a water bottle, but we're mad because it was warm.
 
I played another Carlin video for you that had asked was tthiz the best we can do " Garbage in, Garbage out .

Not sure what is wrong about focusing on America first, immigration ( saving millions of dollars and saving lives) buy American, the economy and a strong defense.
How could anyone dislike any of that but the democrats do....

I would definitely agree that achieving better trade deals and focusing on the economy are important priorities. I agree that immigration needs to be fixed, but I don't see it killing our economy as much as claimed.

We can already destroy the world many times over, so why do we need an even bigger nuclear arsenal that Trump wants?

The tax cuts we got trouble me because we are already at $20 trillion in debt and this cut added another $1.4 trillion to it. Maybe some relief to corporations will be a good move - I am not sure it will work this time when it didn't under Reagan since there are no safeguards against shielding money outside the U.S. still nor does it prevent the windfall going only to CEOs and shareholders as a first priority and they still ship jobs overseas (why not put some real teeth into the cuts if we mean business?) and it also lowered tax rates for the wealthy who already don't pay their fair share compared to tax rates before Reagan when growth in this country was at its greatest pace. The middle class got very little out of the tax cuts and none of that is lasting (expires in some 4 or 5 years). And as soon as the cuts were announced, Paul Ryan gets on the news proclaiming the Republican's next big step is reforming entitlements, which means Social Security and Medicare will be a big target for them. What they give, they take more away. Where is the money for infrastructure, the wall, or anything else of importance going to come from when we already can't pay our bills. You or I can't function this way for long, that is for sure. I can see why Trump has gone bankrupt so many times.

If focusing on America first means we get out of the Paris Accord, I don't think that is a good move long term. Why not stay in the accord and fix the proportion of cost the U.S. bears compared to other nations? All the CO2 going into the atmosphere stays there 100 years (its lifetime before breaking down) so if we just keep putting more into the atmosphere, we will have a heck of a time getting rid of it when temperatures continue to climb. We can ignore the scientists just so long, and we are all seeing trends to more tragic events with time.

And I have no use for the democrats either, and find all this drama stupid. We have become a society drugged out on reality TV and don't really analyze anthing anymore, but just react to the biggest loudmouth around. Our citizens need to be more engaged in the details and the truth and really keep tabs on what is going on in Washington, not just react to the latest CNN or Fox News headlines.

Although there have been others as well, I am not particularly impressed that our president lies incessantly and when caught doesn't even seem embarrassed because he knows his base will believe everything he says, scammed a lot of people in Trump University, cheats on his wife and bullies those he doesn't agree with, nor does he get into the details of the measures he is touting. Long term, it all has consequences. A person's character is a good indicator of their competence overall in judgment.
 
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Carlin was a comic genius period. Although I'm red Tory his critique of the right makes many valid points. Someone wise once said when you head too far out on the end of either side of the pendulum you will meet at the same point.
 
DTJ is hardly a traditional Republican. 3rd Party candidates are punchlines in this country. DJT hi-jacked an out-of-touch Republican party, stepped on the heads of his weak opponents, campaigned wisely... and as we learned today, overcame powerful Federal agencies that had been unlawfully turned against him.

Those same agencies would have been turned against Polite J. Niceguy. That should anger you; not the fact that DJT isn't a "smooth" politician.

As far as I'm concerned, this nation was dying in a desert. Somebody handed us a water bottle, but we're mad because it was warm.

While he maybe is not a traditional Republican, he still lets them write all the rules, and he doesn't even really know what is in them, except for the "sound bites" they feed him.
 
I've been feeling so emboldened sinces the SOTU that I crash my cart into the people I hate at Walmart now.
Taking back the aisles. :usflag:
Have you started watching “Shameless” yet Stan?
 
While he maybe is not a traditional Republican, he still lets them write all the rules, and he doesn't even really know what is in them, except for the "sound bites" they feed him.
Thank God he's not traditional!... there are only a few of those Trump nay sayers (hacks) left and hopefully we can weed them out too.

Like Obama, or any other president for that matter knew every page of every piece of legislation that crossed their desk.
 
Trump won the election not the Republicans. They’re as done as the Democrats. Any other primary opponent would have been more of the same in DC. Trump would have won if he ran as a Democrat but Hillarious had that primary in the bag.
 
As far as I'm concerned, this nation was dying in a desert. Somebody handed us a water bottle, but we're mad because it was warm.

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Thank God he's not traditional!... there are only a few of those Trump nay sayers (hacks) left and hopefully we can weed them out too.

Like Obama, or any other president for that matter knew every page of every piece of legislation that crossed their desk.

When I look at Trump's campaign promises and compare them with the legislation that the Republicans got past him, I have to conclude that Mr. Trump has not studied the critical details or implications as closely as he should to ensure that his agenda gets through rather than theirs. As a businessman, Trump has had to depend on his subordinates a lot to make his empire happen, but in government, there needs to be more scrutiny since the folks serving you may not have your best interests in mind. I really do believe Trump wants what is best for the middle class and the ones who supported him, but I do not believe the Republicans are delivering that in the legislation they are passing. Obama had some background in law and politics, and I do believe he was more cautious about what was put in front of him, even if you disagreed with his judgments. I don't know how to square the stated objectives in Trump's campaign with the realities in the legislation any other way. Paul Ryan, for example, is the beadiest eyed guy in the whole Congress, maybe along with Darrell Issa who fortunately is retiring, and I wouldn't trust anything they put in front of me. Really. Trump is in a den of serpents.

Just one example regarding Ryan - it tells who he really serves, and it isn't you or me or Mr. Trump. From a fact checking site:

FACT CHECK: Did the Kochs Contribute $500,000 to Paul Ryan After the GOP Tax Plan Was Passed?
 
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Always with the Koch Brothers Bla Bla Bla...

The Koch brothers are nothing compared to George Soros. Now he's PURE EVIL!

My point didn't really have anything to do with the Koch Brothers, as they are just doing what serves their interests and is legal. The problem I am tying to highlight, is that money in politics has too much influence in policy and ultimate legislation for this country's well being overall. I saw a couple news articles (maybe "fake news", who knows) that claimed Paul Ryan had numerous meetings with those two brothers during devlopment of the legislation that ultimately passed. I doubt any of us got a phone call from him wanting to know our opinions or that he could have cared less. Democracy doesn't work well under the current circumstances.
 
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