rear main seal installation

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hello all putting my rear main seal in my 65 plymouth fury 318 motor do you guys use any sealer in that block area and does someone have a pic of where to put sealer on that location.
 
hello all putting my rear main seal in my 65 plymouth fury 318 motor do you guys use any sealer in that block area and does someone have a pic of where to put sealer on that location.

Those rear main seals are a rope style seal and do not need any sealant of any kind, you do not want to glue the seal to the crankshaft!

Dave
 
its out on a stand

In that case, the rope type seal for the rear main is probably a better choice, especially if the car is going to spend a lot of time sitting thru winters etc. The rubber seals can dry out and chunks will come off the seal as the engine is started. The rope seals are a natural wick and usually live a lot longer. Cal-Van makes a tool call the "Sneaky Pete" that can be used to install the rope seal without pulling the crank.

It is always a better choice to pull the crank and use the appropriate tools to mold the seal to the bearing journal, but the sneaky pete is probably also a viable alternative choice.

Dave
 
I wish I would’ve used a rope seal in my 440.
 
It is always a better choice to pull the crank and use the appropriate tools to mold the seal to the bearing journal, but the sneaky pete is probably also a viable alternative choice.
Once, I tried the sneaky Pete type of method. Once. It was a shitshow.
If you go with this method, well..... Good Luck.
 
I wish I went with the rope seal. I am on my second rubber one from fel pro. I changed the second one with the motor in the car. What a pain in the ***! It still has a very, very small drip after sitting all winter.
 
Rubber seal is fine. Make sure the lip faces in toward the bearing and install it not lined up with the parting surfaces of the main cap, yes it use a very small amount of ultra black rtv on this parting surface and the seal mating ends. Rope seals are for use when you get in your time machine and jump back 50+ years. Next someone will tell you a steel inserted silicone rubber valve cover gasket is no good, and to get a crumbly cork one. Just use care and don't line up the gaps, small blocks are easy, it the f@$&ing oil pan gasket that's a PITA.
 
trying to move forward here got seal in place now putting oil pump in does the oil pump need a gasket between the pump and the bearing cap i have heard a thin gasket i have heard of a o ring and people running nothing its a 318 65 plymouth fury poly motor stock book states put back together tighten it down im stumped
 
trying to move forward here got seal in place now putting oil pump in does the oil pump need a gasket between the pump and the bearing cap i have heard a thin gasket i have heard of a o ring and people running nothing its a 318 65 plymouth fury poly motor stock book states put back together tighten it down im stumped

Most of the stock 318 poly engines used an o-ring between the pump and the mount point. Look at your pump, it should have a small recess to hold the o-ring. Photo is attached, click on Mail0141.PDF, not the icon.

Dave
 

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Most of the stock 318 poly engines used an o-ring between the pump and the mount point. Look at your pump, it should have a small recess to hold the o-ring. Photo is attached, click on Mail0141.PDF, not the icon.

Dave
i see it took a quick pic of it

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Most of the stock 318 poly engines used an o-ring between the pump and the mount point. Look at your pump, it should have a small recess to hold the o-ring. Photo is attached, click on Mail0141.PDF, not the icon.

Dave
my god thank you
 
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