1978 NYB St Regis questions

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  1. Dana Goetz

    Dana Goetz New Member

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    I'm looking at buying a 78 NYB St. Regis and I have a few questions:
    1. Anyone know the production number for the St Regis package?
    2. The fender tag has a N02 code in the upper right corner. What does that code mean?
    3. Does the 440-4 (E85) engine have a catalytic converter?

    This car is largely unmolested other than a color change. It even has a functioning lean burn system!
     
  2. PeugFra

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    N92 instead of N02 maybe? N92 is what I would expect on a car built for the Canadian market. In 1977 its meaning was "ESA w/o Catalyst" so that answers your third question as well.
     
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    Thank you. I think you are correct. That corner of the tag is corroded so I want sure of the code.

    It also has the R36 AM/FM cb radio
     
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    It would be nice to see the tag, if you can manage.
     
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    It was sent to me by the seller on a blind text and I haven't been able to download the picture but I'm working on it
     
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    I can't download the picture but I'll attach the PDF document showing what I've done so far. The last digit of the vin is also unreadable
     

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    In decades of ownership and playing around with Formals, I've never seen a pre 79 Canadian spec car with a catalytic converter. To my knowledge, cats appeared in Canada in 79. So I'm gonna say "no".

    Plus, N92 means without catalyst which checks out.
     
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    Would the Canadian ESA non-cat cars have a "Non Catalyst" decal on the lh ftont door (near the latch and VIN decal) as the USA cars w/o factory cats did the non-ESA engines (318-2bbl, 360HO, and 400HO) in '76-'77 did?

    Just curious,
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    Wow! An early 1978 NYB for a change, with a Scheduled Production Date of 829! For the real production date, get hold of the door sticker! And clearly Canadian too, with its N92 and the Vehicle Order Number starting with a "C".

    On other NYB tags I have seen, including some for the Canadian market, row 4 is pretty standard and goes:

    M45 P31 P41 N88 G63 M25

    But, if you are really sure about the N in the right-most code, I would say it is N25 "Engine Block Heater". Never seen that on a tag, but this sales code does exist. Codes H23 and N23 as per your PDF are unknown to me.