50th Anniversary Daytona Charger

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  1. odcics2

    odcics2 Active Member

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    Original 69 Daytona sold out in a few weeks of announcement.

    The Superbird, with almost 4 times as many to build because of Nascar rule changes for 70, did not sell out.
    1970 was a recession year. Insurance companies were starting to jack rates too.

    Heard the NEW Daytona is almost sold out.
    Say what you want, but the buying public does like 'em.

    Lastly, a lot of guys don't buy, but lease.
     
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    Turboomni Senior Member

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    Interesting. When they lease is it based on the sticker price and then what happens at the end,,an option to buy but is that price jacked up?
    Sorry never leased a car before.
     
  3. Pete Kaczmarski

    Pete Kaczmarski Senior Member

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    Many people have his outlook on life...….pay only for use today and to hell with tomorrow.
     
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    I'd bet you're right with that statement. I know some recent stats about newer BMW & Mercedes. Over 75% are leased, with BMW being 80-85%. That life style/way of thinking baffles me.
     
  5. 1978 NYB

    1978 NYB Warfighter FCBO Gold Member

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    Graham,

    How many Hellcats or Scat Packs do you know are leased?

    NONE?????
     
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    1978 NYB Warfighter FCBO Gold Member

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    Would you pay this much per month for a car you have to give back and not own?

    I wouldn't......

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  7. CBODY67

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    There ARE benefits to leasing a high-priced vehicle. BMW had the saving grace to have their cars under an all-inclusive factory warranty, which got them back to the dealership for service and oil changes. Which save them the negative publicity, several years ago, of engine failures from less expensive oil being used in them, than the full-syn oil they were then-designed to use. braim

    When I did dealer training on the then-new Pontiac Grand Prix, they had us driving the GTP Comp G cars (supercharged 3800 Buiick V-6 with the suspension upgrade and BFG 39K mile performance radials). The presenter told us to NOT put any Comp G cars out on lease. No matter what. Reason? The tires would need replacement before the end of a three year lease period. He said "You'll have some unhappy customers who had to buy tires before the lease is up." So, put out the regular GTP cars with tires that'll last longer, but with very similar suspension calibrations.

    The lease amount is determined by the projected resale value of the car (projected residual value) at the mileage limit stated in the lease. If it needs new tires, then you pay for them yourself or get dinged on the return charge. Which is why the Pontiac guy mentioned it.

    $679.00/month USED to be "a house payment", but many young 'uns spend that much for PAYMENTS on a new/used crew cab diesel pickup truck down here. Even a bit more in some cases!

    Leasing can get you into more vehicle than monthly payments can, but you can also put a down payment into a lease, too, to buy-down the payments a bit. Just like on a new car, or in some cases, a low mileage used car of recent vintage. That's how some dealers kept their sales up in the later '70s with customers who wouldn't otherwise have been able to afford a new car.

    When we were figuring if a lease would make sense for me, then me purchase the care off-lease, the prices were about the same either way. That was on a '85 Z/28, at the time. I kept what I had (and still have).

    If you can afford a set amount for a monthly payment, then want something different every couple of years, a lease can be what you need. Keep making payments without the hassle of trade-in values/activities. Plus it allegedly can make tax preparations easier for professional people who deduct vehicle costs for their business (the example used to be doctors and such). So, in some respects, a manufacturer's lease can be a more worry-free vehicle ownership experience, for what it's worth. Just READ and UNDERSTAND the fine print, the mileage limit, return fees, "wear and tear" adjustments", etc. of what you commit to for the lease period!

    I always liked the looks of the original Daytona compared to the Superbird. I guess the sales performance of the 'Bird is more what I was thinking of when I mentioned "prior sales" of 'Birds. Thanks for pointing out the difference.

    Of those 50th Anniv. Daytonas, any information on what the average transaction price has been? Just curious.

    CBODY67
     
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    live4theking Old Man with a Hat

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    Where is the nose????
     
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    Some think it's a waste of money to buy depreciating assets. (cars)
    Or buy whole life insurance.
    Or a time share.
    Or a house is a market that going down.

    Personally, I have never leased a car, keeping mine until the wheels fall off! lol.
    Local Chrysler, Dodge, etc. dealer said that at HIS place, 90% of transactions are leases! WOW!!
    Price out a Ram 2500 diesel. Pay cash for it?? or lease??
     
  10. 1978 NYB

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    Of the 4 cars I have....

    I drive my 18 Ram the most. 26k miles.

    I have 6k miles on the Scat Pack and less than 1k miiles combined on both 1978 C bodies.
     
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    LocuMob Fluid Technician with a hat FCBO Gold Member

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    I put double that on a car that's been on the road for six weeks this year. :realcrazy: You need to get out and enjoy that higher HP 440 you have, and rack up those miles. :poke:
     
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    1978 NYB Warfighter FCBO Gold Member

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    Its 85 here today.

    I might start it up.....
     
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    300rag Grumpy Old Man With a Hat FCBO Gold Member

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    No 85 here today, more like 30

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    If your not a high mile driver I would never buy a new car. You can lease it and when the new washes off go get another one.
    WTF are you going to do when that big screen TV in the dash says "I've been out in the cold for 4 Winters and 5 summertime heating, your not going anywhere today because I stopped talking to the BCM"
    36 month lease I'm already gone, let the next a-hole handle it.
    My buddy has a 15 RAM and a couple of the speakers quit working. Dealer says it's in the radio/U Connect. So how long till heat won't come on? How long before the truck will not dial out of park? He is already shopping for another. Can't say I blame him nobody wants to get stuck with that bill. Leasing is a good idea with the gadgets in these new cars/trucks. Besides electronics outdate so fast that 3 yo car is going to feel like a 57 Chevy by the time the lease is up.
    Look at how navigation was such a big deal 5 years ago now nobody would even think of using that crap on the dash when my phone has by the minute traffic and updates the entire app every time it has one and I put no effort in it. My navigation also works on a 85 Peterbilt, a 68 Charger, a 70 Dodge Challenger and a 2011 Jeep GC.
     
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