66 Sport Fury 'vert - 440 A/C

[commando1]

There are no other C-bodies around here so when a shop gets one in and they need help, I usually get a call.

So this morning got a call from a shop where a guy brings in his '66 Sport Fury that he just got off of ebay. Loaded with all the options but a Bondo Special. Everything neglected, bypassed, not working, etc. The new owner was ripped off terribly.

Anyway, I already told him not to buy the quarters he found on ebay, told him the price of all the HVAC components ( picked him up off the ground after that, told him it's pronounced Gay-len Go-vier and the piece of paper means nothing, blah blah, blah. Yet another clueless ebay victim.

He was most visibly shaken when I told him the block was a 383...

Anyway, I'm horrible with fender tags and I told him I'd try to help him out by asking here to decode it. Thanks.

Sorry for the crappy cell phone pics but best under the circumstances.

 

[Samplingman]

Not sure if I could read all of the numbers correctly:
Production date	April 07, 1966
Shipping order	04336
Car line	PLYMOUTH Fury
Price class	Premium
Body type	convertible
Trim Grade	Premium [32P]
Seat type	Bucket vinyl [334]
Trim color	Red [34R]
Paint 1	White [27W]
Paint 2	White [28W]
Paint scheme	Mono tone paint [291]
Upper door frame paint	(UNKNOWN)
Engine	383 4bbl HP 8cyl 325hp B [376/382]
Transmission	Transmission-Torqueflite automatic [395]
26in radiator yoke
Power equipment	Power bucket-LH 6way [454]
Radio	Radio-solid state AM/FM 5.5W [423]
Heater	Air conditioning w/ heater [411]
Front bucket seats	Bucket seats [564]
Police accessories	Heater-DELETE [416] -OR- Speaker-reat seat [426]
Fender mounted turn signals	Light-turn indicator hood/fender mounted [517]
Mirrors	Mirror-outside LH remote [536] -OR- Moulding-bumper reveal [546]
Vehicle sales/delivery	Spotlight-LH 5in pillar mounted [671] -OR- Oversize manual antenna [681] -OR- Sold car/expedite [691]

 

[commando1]

As I suspected. Poor guy...
Thank you. I appreciate it greatly.
Now to call him with more bad news...

 

[Samplingman]

As I suspected. Poor guy...
Thank you. I appreciate it greatly.
Now to call him with more bad news...

Second row, first letter "A", it looks like a "6" underneath, but it is a bit blurry. If it is a "4" then make that a 318, an "8" then it's a 440. I'm sure you are correct with the visual inspection of the engine. Still nice with factory AC. How much did he spend?

 

[commando1]

Second row, first letter "A", it looks like a "6" underneath, but it is a bit blurry. If it is a "4" then make that a 318, an "8" then it's a 440. I'm sure you are correct with the visual inspection of the engine. Still nice with factory AC. How much did he spend?

Too much.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Plymouth-Fu...5e0718a91&item=231398804113&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

 

[dude69300]

Is there anything the guy can do about the car not being what was represented? Being a 383 instead of a 440? I guess That's why you need to look at a car in person instead of relying on someone's pics and info. I do like the Fury, I think it looks nice in white, my brother had one just like that , but not a ragtop. The dash from what I remember had toggle switches for heater, lights, etc something different.

 

[Samplingman]

Too much.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Plymouth-Fu...5e0718a91&item=231398804113&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

Indeed. And it does look like that "6" under the "A" may have been intentionally rubbed off.

 

[Samplingman]

Is there anything the guy can do about the car not being what was represented? Being a 383 instead of a 440? I guess That's why you need to look at a car in person instead of relying on someone's pics and info. I do like the Fury, I think it looks nice in white, my brother had one just like that , but not a ragtop. The dash from what I remember had toggle switches for heater, lights, etc something different.

There is a guaranteed refund through Ebay if the item is not as described, so yes.

 

[Samplingman]

As I suspected. Poor guy...
Thank you. I appreciate it greatly.
Now to call him with more bad news...

What is interesting is that the VIN photo in the ebay auction does point to 440, so I may be wrong with my tag decode:

Fifth digit = engine
A - 170 1-1BBL 6 Cylinder "G" engine
B - 225 1-1BBL 6 Cylinder "RG" engine
C - Special Order 6 Cylinder engine
D - 273 1-2BBL 8 Cylinder "LA" engine
E - 318 1-2BBL 8 Cylinder "LA" engine
F - 361 1-2BBL 8 Cylinder "B" engine
G - 383 1-2BBL 8 Cylinder "B" engine
H - 426 2-4BBL 8 Cylinder "RB" engine (Hemi)
J - 440 1-4BBL 8 Cylinder "RB" engine
K - Special Order 8 Cylinder engine

 

[commando1]

I looked long and hard at that block and...
I need to go back and look at it again.

The VIN tag looks right with the correct rosette rivets.

 

[commando1]

Funny how the engine code on the data plate is obscured.

 

[67Monaco]

Needed another project huh?

 

[commando1]

Lol... No.

 

[67Monaco]

Lol... No.

I meant the persons issue, not the car itself.

 

[commando1]

He bought into a real mess.
Exterior house paint slathered over everything. I mean everything.
Bondo in every conceivable area and less obvious places.
All the trim is badly and deeply pitted and sprayed over w/aluminum paint.
Trunk pan and floor pans shot.
Pedro's While-U-Wait upholstery.
A lot of corrosion and mold.
The car doesn't look anywhere as presentable as the ebay pics. This guy got flukked badly.
He wants to "fix it up". Hoo-boy....

 

[tdenkler]

my first take is the "j" is indeed 440 if correct door plate. Sure doesn't look as rough as data plate!
The "H" engine code is a database mistake. H is a 383. They done same thing in 67. I had a 67 SF 4 speed H code, thought it was a hemi! Wrong!
The data plate has been messed with obviously. Not sure why/what though.
There is a good decode link at Mymopar tech site. You can just plug in the codes and it will spit out what you have.
Not a 100% though.
It did my 68 300 pretty well
Don't have link with me at work. will check later at home and post it
Whats strange is: I always thought J code in 66 was indedd a Hemi!
Tom

 

[commando1]

The owner is faxing me Gay- Len's report. We'll see what he says...

 

[jtalberts]

I had seen that on ebay for awhile. Interesting you got the call to look at it after the purchase. Just shows how much pictures can hide. If that car didn't have the spec'd engine in it the seller would have it parked up his A#*.

 

[Samplingman]

Check this out:

http://www.forcbodiesonly.com/mopar...-Hemmings-find-of-the-day&highlight=commander

We did this one before. I realized it was the one with the "CommanDER" air cleaner! Original asking price: $62,500, so I guess he did get a good deal!

 

[TNTrooper428]

Educate me. So what would have been a fair price for this car if, in fact, it is a 383 instead of a 440??