An Interesting Development in Controlling Pain

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I have noted that a number of folks on this site who are up there in age especially have a chronic issue with pain in their daily lives. While not Mopar related, I thought this new development might give some further near term hope in controlling pain without the side effects of prescripton medicines these days, including the tendencies toward addiction. There are some downsides to this new development, but I still find it quite encouraging perhaps for those who face this issue every day. I am not there yet, but since I am up in age too, it will come eventually I suspect. But scientists believe that this finding will lead to new breakthroughs in treating chronic pain.

At 71, She’s Never Felt Pain or Anxiety. Now Scientists Know Why.
 
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It's 6 AM as I type this. Been up since 4... The upcoming weather change is reeking havoc with my old bones and joints and the pain won't let me sleep. Not unusual for me so I read this with some interest.

It's often puzzled me why there hasn't been any research into why some people feel pain differently than others. From my personal experience, having had my share of chronic pain, it can be absolutely devastating for some and for others, it's just a bump in the road. I've had a couple interesting conversations with nurses about the subject. Their observations were that some people are just wimps. While that may be true, that has painted anyone that has issues as drug seekers or lazy. I'm neither, and I'm fortunate that I have some doctors that understand that.

Que the rant about insurance companies and federal regulations since the implementation of "Obamacare".

The feds are doing their best to limit the availability of pain meds in the name of keeping them away from drug addicts. (That's backfiring and causing more heroin problems, but that's a subject for another debate) The regs have forced doctors to change how they write prescriptions. Your family doc can't write some pain killers anymore and the pain management docs have to do things like pill counts and urine testing. It all adds up to more money out of my pocket for treatment that everyone, including me, has to jump through hoops to get.

The insurance companies now are limiting what they will cover... I just got a letter from my pain management folks. I have a procedure done every six months... They sedate me, ground my butt and then stick a needle in my neck. Then they pass low frequency RF through the needle and it fries the nerve so pain is decreased. It's not as much fun as it sounds... This is the only thing that works... It's temporary and I get about five months of relief until the nerve regenerates and the pain comes roaring back... The insurance company will only let them do it every six months though. Not five... Six. I'm healthy, so the nerve "heals" faster. Back to the letter, my nerve burn, that's scheduled for Tuesday, will cost me over $1100 because they don't cover it anymore. They do one side at a time, so the burn scheduled for the following week won't be covered either. They had to approve it though... Authorization of a freaking procedure that I am paying for has to be done on their schedule and only if they "allow" it. Then I get a nasty letter about the pain meds (Tramadol) that I take. It takes me about three months to go through a month's prescription... and the majority are used the last month before the nerve burn.

It's all very frustrating and it makes me wonder how someone that is just getting by, but making enough money not to qualify for free health care is getting by. At least I can afford this, but some poor bastard that is slugging it out in a factory making a little more than the kid at Burger King, but makes enough that he can't get the government cheese, is just going to have to suffer the pain or not feed his family.
 
I have some chronic arthritis pain top to bottom and a now 14 year old back injury that’ll give me a little extra grief but none of it’s to bad as I approach 50. I have been taking this Relief Factor product for a couple of years now and it does help at least take the edge off. I was recently without it for a week and I could absolutely feel the aches and pains worsening as the days went by.
Relief Factor | Healthy Inflammation Response Supplement
 
You might also try some good CBD oils John.
 
I have some chronic arthritis pain top to bottom and a now 14 year old back injury that’ll give me a little extra grief but none of it’s to bad as I approach 50. I have been taking this Relief Factor product for a couple of years now and it does help at least take the edge off. I was recently without it for a week and I could absolutely feel the aches and pains worsening as the days went by.
Relief Factor | Healthy Inflammation Response Supplement

I've tried a few things like that. The best one, so far, is a prebiotic along with a probiotic. The "gut" and how it digests food, has a lot to do with inflammation and pain. Antibiotics and the like are known to destroy some of the intestinal bacteria that digests food and the pre/probiotics help replace the bacteria. Along with that, and possibly caused by antibiotics, there's some evidence to gut leakage causing all sorts of issues.

You might also try some good CBD oils John.

Tried it. It does help me sleep, but it doesn't seem to be the wonder drug that some say. My next step is gong to be cannabis, something that pain management is pushing. I haven't gone that way yet... There's a licensing program in New York State that will probably cost me about $1000 to get into. I'm waiting for NYS to make it legal for personal use instead. That should be sometime this year. There's some federal implications that might cause me to lose my New York CCW should I get the license.
 
I've tried a few things like that. The best one, so far, is a prebiotic along with a probiotic. The "gut" and how it digests food, has a lot to do with inflammation and pain. Antibiotics and the like are known to destroy some of the intestinal bacteria that digests food and the pre/probiotics help replace the bacteria. Along with that, and possibly caused by antibiotics, there's some evidence to gut leakage causing all sorts of issues.

Tried it. It does help me sleep, but it doesn't seem to be the wonder drug that some say. My next step is gong to be cannabis, something that pain management is pushing. I haven't gone that way yet... There's a licensing program in New York State that will probably cost me about $1000 to get into. I'm waiting for NYS to make it legal for personal use instead. That should be sometime this year. There's some federal implications that might cause me to lose my New York CCW should I get the license.

The source of the CBD oil is important.
I have tried the Hemp CBD & it doesn't touch the pain I have unless I drink half a bottle.
The CBD from marijuana is more concentrated resulting in less taken and better pain management.
The price difference is actually less in the long run since I would use 5-6 bottles of hemp CBD to 1 bottle of the high octane product.
As mentioned up above, I was accused of being a wimp many years ago which got me all fired up at the Neurologist & interns in the room during my WSIB exam/review.

I count my blessing that I was able to manage with decent health for the following 17 years before all hell started to break lose on me.

I have discovered & relayed this to the specialists I've seen to date that with me it is like a domino affect.

1 small pain point can trigger another then another then another compounding the pain resulting in huge muscle spasms which cause more pain...

With the MM CBD & THC combos, I can stop the chain reactions in the past 2 years of using MM

Finally I was tuned into the facts that a few other of my siblings are dealing with chronic pain & it a family history thing...
My father had it & unfortunately turned to Morphine which was likely the cause that sped up his departure from this mortal coil.
 
To further the conversation on this, some people are very blessed like in the article and have little to no pain ever...

The CBD & THC is said to reset the pain receptors so that even if a pain signal is sent to the brain, the brain acts like a comforter telling the body, "it's ok, you'll be alright" & allows the person to function without the shocking spasms & contractions of muscles that would normally pull & twist things out of alignment causing further damage to the body(at least this is the case for me)

I wish everyone here the best of health but try not to outlive your retirement savings :lol:
 
There's some federal implications that might cause me to lose my New York CCW should I get the license.
Here in MI, if you have a Medical Marijuana you can't get your CPL(CCW) license. You have to chose what's more important to you, I don't know if that will change now that MI made rec pot legal, but I will keep my CPL thank you.
 
Interesting read, my wife has back problems. Bulging and ruptured discs and the area that it's in the doc doesn't think surgery is a option. She goes to a pain clinic so any advances in pain control we tend to pay attention to. Thanks for the article
 
Here in MI, if you have a Medical Marijuana you can't get your CPL(CCW) license. You have to chose what's more important to you, I don't know if that will change now that MI made rec pot legal, but I will keep my CPL thank you.
You beat me to mentioning this. With the increasing "red flag" laws having a med mj card can trigger them to come after all your firearms. And no more pilot's license.
To the OP, have you tried chiropractic with acupuncture combined with electronic stimulation?
It works for many.
Good luck dealing with your pain.
 
Interesting read, my wife has back problems. Bulging and ruptured discs and the area that it's in the doc doesn't think surgery is a option. She goes to a pain clinic so any advances in pain control we tend to pay attention to. Thanks for the article
She needs spinal decompression. When I injured my back I herniated 3 discs and ruptured/tore 2 of those 3 and my time on the DRX9000 was absolutely what I credit getting me back on my feet in matter of 6 weeks rather than the 6 months I was being told by some of the top specialists in the area. Another thing that really helped in conjunction with that was flooding my body with liquid protein (Muscle Milk) before bed. Those discs need protein and that part of our body soaks up protein while we sleep. Once I could walk again I started building my core muscles to better support my spine and all that’s left now is a bit of manageable arthritis pain. I also ended up buying a good inversion table for home use.
 
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She needs spinal decompression. When I injured my back I herniated 3 discs and ruptured/tore 2 of those 3 and my time on the DRX9000 was absolutely what I credit getting me back on my feet in mare of 6 weeks rather than the 6 months I was being told by some of the op specialists in the area. Another thing that really helped in conjunction with that was flooding my body with liquid protein (Muscle Milk) before bed. Those discs need protein and that part of our body soaks up protein while we sleep. Once I could walk again I started building my core muscles to better support my spine and all that’s left now is a bit of manageable arthritis pain. I also ended up buying a good inversion table for home use.

I know others that have tried the inversion tables and get relieve.
I personally was warned to stay away due to the complicated issues in my spine. I would like to try one though.
 
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I know others that have tried the inversion tables and get relieve.
I personally was warned to stay away due to the complicated issues in my spine. I would like to try one though.
It’s not for everyone, some have issues that could actually be worsened by aggressive decompression. Consult an expert if unsure.
 
It’s not for everyone, some have issues that could actually be worsened by aggressive decompression. Consult an expert if unsure.
I hear that bats never have back problems...
Maybe they have known this all along...
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Interesting read, my wife has back problems. Bulging and ruptured discs and the area that it's in the doc doesn't think surgery is a option. She goes to a pain clinic so any advances in pain control we tend to pay attention to. Thanks for the article

Has she tried an inversion table? I lived with three compressed disks in my low back for the better part of 20 years. I finally decided to pull the trigger on an inversion table and my only regret is not getting one sooner. The improvement in alignment, posture and overall comfort have been revolutionary for me. My back feels 20 years younger.

EDIT: Should have read further before I replied!
 
They've also been looking for a genetic pain link in erythromelalgia for awhile now. Neuropathy and osteoarthritis are the scourge of old age. Everybody eventually get them so some degree, and some are unlucky enough to get them bad early.
 
Has she tried an inversion table? I lived with three compressed disks in my low back for the better part of 20 years. I finally decided to pull the trigger on an inversion table and my only regret is not getting one sooner. The improvement in alignment, posture and overall comfort have been revolutionary for me. My back feels 20 years younger.

EDIT: Should have read further before I replied!
She has one, the doc say's not to use it though. She hasn't in a while, but may get back on that horse. Just recently the pain has gotten really bad because something has moved again. Her problem is in the thoracic area of the spine.
 
She has one, the doc say's not to use it though. She hasn't in a while, but may get back on that horse. Just recently the pain has gotten really bad because something has moved again. Her problem is in the thoracic area of the spine.

Is that the upper spine?
 
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