Climate change current effects

[tbm3fan]

Ran across this article which is thought provoking if you manage to read the whole article especially concerning New Orleans, the Miami area and Phoenix.

Welcome to the Age of Climate Migration - Rolling Stone

 

[Mudeblue]

Only if you choose to believe it! Wonder what the Native American Indians thought when the glaciers melted in the last ice-age? Probably a movement to stop cooking their venison!

 

[Jeff]

I choose to believe it, just like I believe in gravity, a spherical earth, that the earth rotates around the sun, etc. As nice as it is to sometimes ignore huge problems that seem insurmountable, it doesn't make them go away. I'm still surprised that people in 2018 choose not to believe in it when Exxon scientists knew about it in the early 1980s. Were they part of the vast global conspiracy of climate scientists? When you consider how thin the atmosphere is and how much CO2 is liberated from burning a single gallon of gas (about 18 pounds), it seems like you must have to work really hard to maintain your skepticism.

 

[Rwc]

In the 1980's we were headed to another ice age. Then we were headed to global warming. Now we just have climate change. When comparing this change, to what is it changing from? We have pretty short term data when you consider the age of our planet.
Maybe the climate just naturally cycles. Accepted science has a worse track record than most other industries. It was once accepted science that the sun circled the earth and if you disagreed you were all the things climate deniers are now.

 

[saforwardlook]

I choose to believe it, just like I believe in gravity, a spherical earth, that the earth rotates around the sun, etc. As nice as it is to sometimes ignore huge problems that seem insurmountable, it doesn't make them go away. I'm still surprised that people in 2018 choose not to believe in it when Exxon scientists knew about it in the early 1980s. Were they part of the vast global conspiracy of climate scientists? When you consider how thin the atmosphere is and how much CO2 is liberated from burning a single gallon of gas (about 18 pounds), it seems like you must have to work really hard to maintain your skepticism.

Jeff, we seem to be living in an age where scientists are ignored and people just decide to agree with what they want to agree with. Facts and experts be damned. This site is full of them. Stop wasting your time.

 

[Fury440]

Climate continually shifts following a multitude of cycles. This has been going on for thousands of years and will most likely carry on for thousands more.
Mankind has to follow the "good' spots and avoid those too wet, hot, or cold. Failure to migrate means extinction.
Places like New Orleans and most of south Florida were great locations when they were built, but today maybe not so much. Anyone owning real estate with any value should look long and hard at liquidation to free up their assets, then either relocate or stay put and rent.
You might survive a skirmish like Katrina and other such weather events, but in the long run, you simply can't win any war with Mother Nature.
Try Alberta, gets pretty cold, but a warm house makes it all better.

 

[Rapidtrans777]

When global warming wasn't cutting it they came up with climate change. Who can argue that? I agree wholeheartedly. Yesterday it was 83, today 71, a month ago in the 30's. Yup, the climate changed. What I don't agree with is that man causes it or that man can stop it. Contribute? Eh... If I'm burning off the back 40 and the smoke blocks the sun out over my neighbors yeah it might be a degree cooler. But on a global scale...we can't change the climate no matter how hard we try. So how many believers are parking their C bodies and getting a Prius?

 

[Jeff]

Jeff, we seem to be living in an age where scientists are ignored and people just decide to agree with what they want to agree with. Facts and experts be damned. This site is full of them. Stop wasting your time.

I guess I'm surprised to see so many here. To repair and operate a car you have to have some "faith" in science and understand cause and effect.

 

[LocuMob]

We need to kill off all the cows on the planet, then we can idle our cars 24/7 and keep this place (earth) nice and comfy, not too hot, not too cold.

 

[Jeff]

So how many believers are parking their C bodies and getting a Prius?

It is not necessary. Relatively moderate changes are needed to avert the worst effects. Had we started 10 years ago, the needed changes would have been unnoticeable. Today it would be noticeable but not dramatic. If we wait 10 more years it will be very difficult.

As for the change in terminology, there may be PR reasons, but the main reason is that "global warming" is somewhat misleading. As a whole, it is warming, more at the poles than the equator, and some places will get colder. But the most misleading thing is that it doesn't account for one of the biggest problems-ocean acidification.

 

[67Monaco]

Sir, I refer you to Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds.

https://www.amazon.com/Extraordinary-Popular-Delusions-Madness-Crowds/dp/1463740514


Global climate change, capitalism at it's best. Keep people affraid with faulty algo's and they'll keep paying you to find a solution.

 

[LocuMob]

Using global warming, now climate change, as a "motivator" they have added another tool in their arsenal to have a One World Order. I Didn't read 1984 until after the year 2000, and was blown away at how close we had come then, now with everyone and their mothers having cell phones we have voluntarily behaved in the exact manner required for us to follow along with the agenda that is planned out for us, without the slightest outcry from anyone. As long as we have our gadgets to distract us, we don't care. I love all the technology that has helped me out in the last 10 years, but I miss when time didn't move so fast, and you could simply enjoy life for a few minutes. But I'm as guilty as the next person.

 

[Wonderwagon]

world is flat, the sun revolves around the rectangular pizza shapped earth

 

[65 500]

Ran across this article which is thought provoking if you manage to read the whole article especially concerning New Orleans, the Miami area and Phoenix.

Welcome to the Age of Climate Migration - Rolling Stone

So Rolling Stone magazine is the type of "scientific", un-biased, publication that you get your information from. HA!
Give this B.S. a rest, most of us know better. You might want to try this site PriusChat to find the gullible.

 

[cantflip]

Jeff, we seem to be living in an age where scientists are ignored and people just decide to agree with what they want to agree with. Facts and experts be damned. This site is full of them. Stop wasting your time.

It is not necessary. Relatively moderate changes are needed to avert the worst effects. Had we started 10 years ago, the needed changes would have been unnoticeable. Today it would be noticeable but not dramatic. If we wait 10 more years it will be very difficult.

As for the change in terminology, there may be PR reasons, but the main reason is that "global warming" is somewhat misleading. As a whole, it is warming, more at the poles than the equator, and some places will get colder. But the most misleading thing is that it doesn't account for one of the biggest problems-ocean acidification.

Thanks fellas. I believe... to a point... I also believe we have poisoned our environment quite nicely. I'm going to ask you guy's who think about this more than I do, when will it affect my life?

You see, I have no children... the planet needs to last for my lifespan, period. I recycle, I try to contain poisons for legal disposal, I somewhat try to conserve energy... of course my reasoning is different than most environmentalists. Recycling gives me another trash can I don't have to pay extra for, free environmental disposal at the public landfill operation keeps me legal without additional expense (no tire disposal fee's too) and as for energy savings, I'm just cheap.

There would be a heavier environmental impact building me a replacement vehicle, than to continue to repair and drive the current one. And the fuel savings would never offset my expenses if I purchased one that can do what the current driver does.

My guilty pleasure activities with the old cars is doing very little additional harm to the environment... of course a new paint job would cause some debate.

What should I do different? I see this situation as more of an opportunistic event where the media and every crackpot out there seems to have found way to inspire panic/concern in the population. Meanwhile I just want to enjoy my cars and the remainder of my years on the planet... and I firmly believe that I will be more inconvenienced in the years to come by the countless morons who text and drive than by the evolution of the earths atmosphere.

I may leave FL one day, but I doubt it will be due to climate change.

 

[commando1]

I blame it on immigration.

 

[MYSINBIN]

Jeff, we seem to be living in an age where scientists are ignored and people just decide to agree with what they want to agree with. Facts and experts be damned. This site is full of them. Stop wasting your time.

You've both stated precisely why I've throttled back from this and other forums.

Humans are really only a fly speck on the *** of a fly on the *** of Mother Nature.

I've never seen the sense in poking the mama bear.

Sooner or later, she's going to say enough.

John

 

[Carmine]

Thanks fellas. I believe... to a point... I also believe we have poisoned our environment quite nicely. I'm going to ask you guy's who think about this more than I do, when will it affect my life?

You see, I have no children... the planet needs to last for my lifespan, period. I recycle, I try to contain poisons for legal disposal, I somewhat try to conserve energy... of course my reasoning is different than most environmentalists. Recycling gives me another trash can I don't have to pay extra for, free environmental disposal at the public landfill operation keeps me legal without additional expense (no tire disposal fee's too) and as for energy savings, I'm just cheap.

There would be a heavier environmental impact building me a replacement vehicle, than to continue to repair and drive the current one. And the fuel savings would never offset my expenses if I purchased one that can do what the current driver does.

My guilty pleasure activities with the old cars is doing very little additional harm to the environment... of course a new paint job would cause some debate.

What should I do different? I see this situation as more of an opportunistic event where the media and every crackpot out there seems to have found way to inspire panic/concern in the population. Meanwhile I just want to enjoy my cars and the remainder of my years on the planet... and I firmly believe that I will be more inconvenienced in the years to come by the countless morons who text and drive than by the evolution of the earths atmosphere.

I may leave FL one day, but I doubt it will be due to climate change.

I don't think it's about what you do on a day-to-day basis. Hell, you can fly around on a jet, build huge houses, even run a billion-dollar media company that uses hundreds of thousands of watts of grid power to run infomercials at 2 AM.

What really matters is saying you support the correct political argument. Agree that things like free speech, individual rights, national sovereignty, et all, get in the way of an elite that better knows who-should-receive-what (job, education, housing, etc.).

When you master that, feel free to dress it up under any of the following covers... tolerance, privilege, equality, an "ism", climate change, social justice, and so forth. At the unelected level, you can throw molitove cocktails on the Internet and call people names.

That's how you can be "useful". And if you're cute enough to the opposite sex (or same I guess?) it might even get you laid.

 

[tbm3fan]

So Rolling Stone magazine is the type of "scientific", un-biased, publication that you get your information from. HA!
Give this B.S. a rest, most of us know better. You might want to try this site PriusChat to find the gullible.

and here I specifically picked out that article from "Rolling Stone" for a rocker and stoner just like you, LOL

 

[65 500]

when will it affect my life? The weather probably affects your life every day.


What should I do different? Nothing, you're not going to change a thing. Only those with a hugely inflated idea of self-worth think they can change the weather.


I see this situation as more of an opportunistic event where the media and every crackpot out there seems to have found way to inspire panic/concern in the population. Exactly!