Tink
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It used to be a crime to yell "fire" in a movie theater. It used to be a crime to say things that cause the death of others. What ever changed that?
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patrick66
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Political Correctness, that's what.
Boomer
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Stop with the stereotypes and profiling!! It's not fire's fault that it burns things up and some people fear it, that's just what it does.
Fire just be needin' a hug. Death too, it can't be easy being Death. Talk about image problems created by intolerant people.....!
Fire just be needin' a hug. Death too, it can't be easy being Death. Talk about image problems created by intolerant people.....!
Might be a Bit of Topic but has been Bothering me.
Heard on the News That Target was Selling Shirts that had, OCD written on them, For "Obsessive Christmas Disorder" And People that Actually Have a OCD Threw a Tantrum about it. Man what a Bunch of Little Pussy's People Are, Like they Own The Alphabet or The Initials O.C.D.
As I Get Older, I seem to notice I have inherited My Fathers Intense Hatred For Humankind.
Heard on the News That Target was Selling Shirts that had, OCD written on them, For "Obsessive Christmas Disorder" And People that Actually Have a OCD Threw a Tantrum about it. Man what a Bunch of Little Pussy's People Are, Like they Own The Alphabet or The Initials O.C.D.
As I Get Older, I seem to notice I have inherited My Fathers Intense Hatred For Humankind.
Boomer
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We've created it by sitting by while the 'Everyone Gets a Trophy' crowd ran rampant. Their answer to everything is a hug, a gov't sponsored program, or some unrealistic notion that they can create some perfect, impossible equality because they're just that much smarter than the rest of us.
I figured out how to keep the hatin' simple: I don't hate any particular race, religion, ethnic group, the ignorant (we all fit here somehow), etc. I only hate stupid people. Simple, and as those dimwits insist: completely inclusive, regardless of any other factors.
Used the same approach to make sure I never developed a drinking problem: Keep it simple. So now I only drink if I'm alone or with someone.
Cakeish.
I figured out how to keep the hatin' simple: I don't hate any particular race, religion, ethnic group, the ignorant (we all fit here somehow), etc. I only hate stupid people. Simple, and as those dimwits insist: completely inclusive, regardless of any other factors.
Used the same approach to make sure I never developed a drinking problem: Keep it simple. So now I only drink if I'm alone or with someone.
Cakeish.
Tink
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That describes the 90's to a tee.
I also don't hate anyone and cant imagine what it is like. There is an awful lot of people I dislike but not enough to wish them harm. Its hard to believe someones yapper can inspire someone to murder someone.
This thread got me thinking about something that happened 15 years ago. My oldest son was in high school and had a couple older friends that were feuding about something. He overheard one guy saying "I'm going to kill him" and warned his other friend about it. To make a long story short, the next thing I know I'm sitting in the principal's office with my son who is refusing to make a statement to the cops.
I ask "Was there a fight?" and got a "No, just a threat". "How is my son involved?" "He overheard the threat".
In the conversation that followed, the principal was looking to get the cops involved in what looked like just a bit of typical teenage angst. No fight... Just words. Turns out the one kid only had a couple weeks left until he graduated anyway.
I asked if he had sat the two kids down and talked to them and told them to knock it off and grow up then and make them shake hands... It was like the principal never even thought of doing that. He wanted to make a huge deal about it and expel the kid with a couple weeks to go. I asked if this kid had been a lot of trouble or if he gotten into other fights. Turned out he hadn't been in any serious trouble and this was a first for him.
I had enough and asked the principal "You've been doing this for a while... Have you ever said I'm going to kill that kid?" "Ummm..... well... ummm... yes, but I didn't mean it" "OK, are we done wasting my time and can we let my son get back to class?" "Yes".
I ask "Was there a fight?" and got a "No, just a threat". "How is my son involved?" "He overheard the threat".
In the conversation that followed, the principal was looking to get the cops involved in what looked like just a bit of typical teenage angst. No fight... Just words. Turns out the one kid only had a couple weeks left until he graduated anyway.
I asked if he had sat the two kids down and talked to them and told them to knock it off and grow up then and make them shake hands... It was like the principal never even thought of doing that. He wanted to make a huge deal about it and expel the kid with a couple weeks to go. I asked if this kid had been a lot of trouble or if he gotten into other fights. Turned out he hadn't been in any serious trouble and this was a first for him.
I had enough and asked the principal "You've been doing this for a while... Have you ever said I'm going to kill that kid?" "Ummm..... well... ummm... yes, but I didn't mean it" "OK, are we done wasting my time and can we let my son get back to class?" "Yes".
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
Good job, Big John. VERY(!) good job. Bravo!
patrick66
Old Man with a Hat
Years ago, my older son was assaulted after gym class, and the teacher did nothing about it. I was called in and was immediately surrounded by four teachers and the principal, in his office. I'm wondering "WTF?" as he told me what happened. Three kids mugged my son, while the gym teacher was in the next room. Did nothing. I asked both the "teacher" and the principal why the hell wasn't the fight stopped, and both said "there was nothing we could do about it!" To which I got extremely irate and asked "Who are the adults here? Why the hell did not you not stop this? You were THERE!" The principal got very defensive, and said "It was not their job!", and called in the campus cop. This really pissed me off, but I maintained my composure...barely. I said "I'm going to call three people - the Sheriff, a friend who works at one of the local TV stations, and my attorney", so I called my friend at the TV station first. Told him what happened, and he said he could have a crew there in 15 minutes!" This scared the **** out of the principal and the teachers, because I was not backing down. Next was the sheriff, whom my wife knows he and his wife personally...This got the principal and the cop scared shitless now. Next was my attorney, who called the school board. I told the little bastard behind the desk "You think I'm fuckin' around now???" I pulled my son out and homeschooled him for three years. Best thing I ever did.
Six years later, this ******* gets promoted to become the principal of the high school. I'm so glad I do not have to deal with the government schools anymore. I wish my damn property taxes could go where I want them to go and not this damn school district!
Six years later, this ******* gets promoted to become the principal of the high school. I'm so glad I do not have to deal with the government schools anymore. I wish my damn property taxes could go where I want them to go and not this damn school district!
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
I have a new hero to worship.
Tink
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Yeah, saying "your dead" was common speech at one time. Back when teens were allowed to work it out, it meant we are going to fight. When adults say it, it is somehow different, like a maturity switch has been thrown. It is aggressive speech that every prosecutor will slam you with. When we throw the switch to become adults we should be then know the difference. We treat kids different from adults.
If you say that to someone today.....you'll will have the FBI, Homeland Security, and (depending on who you say it to) Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton hunting you down immediately.
commando1
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I was meeting my friend John at the airport. He got there early so he boarded the plane before I did.
When i finally boarded, I saw him waving at me from the back of the plane and I yelled out, Hi, Jack. I was immediately pig piled by a hundred passengers.
When i finally boarded, I saw him waving at me from the back of the plane and I yelled out, Hi, Jack. I was immediately pig piled by a hundred passengers.
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I am not on the other side of this. There is a very difficult decision to be made whenever a youngster acts out in an educational institution. The institution is responsible for providing a safe environment, and that is where the dumbass thinking comes in. I don't agree with police involvement on the playground, but there are issues that can only be documented that way. Education records are protected, police records are available for future use.. even juvenile and expunged records are available to the legal system forever. Unfortunately the person making the judgement call may not be fair minded or be driven by political pressures.
I knew a young man who got himself on death row at 14. He deserved to pay for his crime, but the two older boys were adult age. Thanks to our legal system they received large prison sentences, but not equal to his. I cant believe he was the ringleader of a capital crime.
I have observed in the decades since how thin a grasp on reality so many young people have. Blame it on what you like, it is a real problem that often only gets dealt with at school.
I ask these two questions... How many guns and knives went to your school? How many of you never received a good "cant sit down spanking"?
I knew a young man who got himself on death row at 14. He deserved to pay for his crime, but the two older boys were adult age. Thanks to our legal system they received large prison sentences, but not equal to his. I cant believe he was the ringleader of a capital crime.
I have observed in the decades since how thin a grasp on reality so many young people have. Blame it on what you like, it is a real problem that often only gets dealt with at school.
I ask these two questions... How many guns and knives went to your school? How many of you never received a good "cant sit down spanking"?
Fratzog
Old Man with a Hat
Times have changed here in southern Ontario. I agree when I was a kid an altercation was most likely to be settled with fists. You may have a shiner but you went back to school the next day. No biggie. In high school there was a minor trade in nickel bags, hash or a bit of acid but nothing more serious than that. Now 45 years later schools are contending with street gang members that may be carrying. I used to frequent the down town of Hamilton but no longer since swarming and muggings with guns are not uncommon. I'm not sure how schools are supposed to distinguish the innocent stuff from the gang related stuff anymore.
I went to a very rough, inner city vocational school. Were there guns? I saw a couple, but I don't think that was the weapon of choice for teenagers in the sixties. Knives... Yes... A lot of them. One of my school mates was shot by a local cop. He pulled a starters pistol on the cop. They did a memoriam page in the yearbook. The really bad guys dropped out early.
To the second part of the question... I've been spanked by my parents. Never that hard though. Maybe because I was a pretty good kid and maybe because I was the baby of the family.... I don't know... I have been hit by teachers though. I got hit by pointers and rulers a lot and I deserved it almost all the time. Had a gym teacher paddle me hard for forgetting my gym shorts (first offense!) in the fourth grade. I didn't deserve that one and would have loved to had a little "conversation" with him when I grew up about hitting 8 year old kids with a board.
patrick66
Old Man with a Hat
Unless the person uttering those word is a Leftist, then that is "protected free speech".
As I said, I am not against you at all on this. Just saying its a difficult position that seems to get politically filled by the person with the least aptitude. What should be simple, now gets lawsuits... the whole thing is a disaster. I talk to more and more people who currently or in the past have done the homeschool route. Like Patrick said... its a shame they still have to pay for the lack of services they receive.
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