Pulling seized engine

[SludgeWizard]

Hey y’all, I gotta pull the current seized engine out of my 73 Fury. However, I plan on reusing the same transmission and don’t especially wanna have to pull both the engine and tranny in one piece. Seeing as how the engine is sized and I won’t be able to turn it over to unbolt the torque converter, how would y’all go about pulling just the engine? If that’s even possible at this point lol

 

[MONC440]

Just unbolt the bell housing bolts, put a jack under the trans to suppot it. With your cherry picker raise the engine just enough to clear the mounts and pan. This will raise the trans some also so you need to raise the jack under the trans also. Then slide the engine forward. You need to move it forward enough for the torque converter hub to slide out of the trans. about 2 inches. I have done this at least 10 times in my life. You are likely to damage the trans front seal so make sure you replace that before reinstalling the torque converter. I always replace that seal anyway.

It goes without saying you need the radiator and all the front engine accessories removed for clearance.

 

[SludgeWizard]

Just unbolt the bell housing bolts, put a jack under the trans to suppot it. With your cherry picker raise the engine just enough to clear the mounts and pan. This will raise the trans some also so you need to raise the jack under the trans also. Then slide the engine forward. You need to move it forward enough for the torque converter hub to slide out of the trans. about 2 inches. I have done this at least 10 times in my life. You are likely to damage the trans front seal so make sure you replace that before reinstalling the torque converter. I always replace that seal anyway.

It goes without saying you need the radiator and all the front engine accessories removed for clearance.

Okay cool, got it. I’ve heard that the TC does just slip out of the transmission but I wanted to make sure before I added one more thing to the ever growing list of things that need replaced. Radiator and all accessories are out and it’s ready to be pulled

 

[MONC440]

Okay cool, got it. I’ve heard that the TC does just slip out of the transmission but I wanted to make sure before I added one more thing to the ever growing list of things that need replaced. Radiator and all accessories are out and it’s ready to be pulled

Oh you must remove the starter and bottom torque converter inspection cover also.

 

[SludgeWizard]

Oh you must remove the starter and bottom torque converter inspection cover also.

Both are removed already, it’s good to go. Were you referring to the pump housing gasket needing replaced?

 

[MONC440]

Both are removed already, it’s good to go. Were you referring to the pump housing gasket needing replaced?

Not the pump gasket, just the front seal. The TC seal.

 

[SludgeWizard]

Not the pump gasket, just the front seal. The TC seal.

Got it. Thanks for the write up

 

[413]

You need to move it forward enough for the torque converter hub to slide out of the trans. about 2 inches.

Hold on folks. Let's discuss this 2 inches idea.

Yes the converter goes in the front pump 2 inches. But the input shaft goes inside the torque converter about 4 more inches.

So is this 6" total. The end of the input shaft is about 1/2" from the front edge of the bellhousing.

And the oil pan will be hitting the crossmember before that. The engine will née tilted, you could break th front pump ears off.

I recommend unbolting the trans and driveshaft. Put a floor hpjack under the pan and roll the trans straight back. If you don't put the converter out straight you can break the ears off the front pump. You don't want to damage your trans. I Learned this the hard way decades ago.

 

[SludgeWizard]

Let's discuss this 2 inches idea.

Yes the converter goes in the front pump 2 inches. But the input shaft goes inside the torque converter about 5 more inches.

So is this 7" total.

And the oil pan will be hitting the crossmember before that. The engine will née tilted, you could break th front pump ears off.

I recommend unbolting the trans and driveshaft. Put a floor hpjack under the pan and roll the trans straight back. If you don't put the converter out straight you can break the ears off the front pump. You don't want to damage your trans. I Learned this the hard way decades ago.

That’s something to consider. I have a motorcycle jack that would likely work perfect if this is the route I take

 

[413]

That’s something to consider. I have a motorcycle jack that would likely work perfect if this is the route I take

Yes sounds good. you can leave the trans on the jack under the car, and you can check the u-joints while the driveshaft is out.

It's just hard to feel when something is bound up when trying to clear the crossmember with the oil pan and tilting the engine.

 

[Big_John]

Yes the converter goes in the front pump 2 inches. But the input shaft goes inside the torque converter about 4 more inches.

So is this 6" total.

I used this math back when I was dating.

I'll let myself out...

 

[SludgeWizard]

I used this math back when I was dating.

I'll let myself out...

Been there buddy

 

[1970FuryConv]

Okay cool, got it. I’ve heard that the TC does just slip out of the transmission but I wanted to make sure before I added one more thing to the ever growing list of things that need replaced. Radiator and all accessories are out and it’s ready to be pulled

For big blocks, it's not too bad to remove the oil pan and pickup with engine in car. That makes it a lot easier to move the engine forward.

 

[SludgeWizard]

For big blocks, it's not too bad to remove the oil pan and pickup with engine in car. That makes it a lot easier to move the engine forward.

The engine that’s getting pulled is getting rebuilt anyways so it can’t hurt to just remove the oil pan. It’s crushed anyhow. Anything to make it a bit easier lol

 

[413]

For big blocks, it's not too bad to remove the oil pan and pickup with engine in car. That makes it a lot easier to move the engine forward.

A small block pan is just as easy to take off as a BB The not fun part is removing the center link.

Could unbolt it and then lift the edge up to remove pickup. And a SB just 2 oil pump bolts takes off the pickup also. No need twisting it and needing clearance for the twist on a BB

 

[413]

The engine that’s getting pulled is getting rebuilt anyways so it can’t hurt to just remove the oil pan. It’s crushed anyhow. Anything to make it a bit easier lol

Then it quick to torch or sawzall off the sump and pickup.

 

[SludgeWizard]

Then it quick to torch or sawzall off the sump and pickup.

Hopefully it doesn’t come to this and I can get the pickup out without too much trouble but the sawzall is always a nuclear option

 

[66 Monaco 500 365]

I prefer pulling the trans and engine together!

 

[SludgeWizard]

I prefer pulling the trans and engine together!

To be completely honest, I don’t think my cherry picker could handle both together lol