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Polaras in 1970 have not more than E85 to offer
Lets Play A Game: Last Of The Convertibles
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69CoronetRT
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Making it tough to get into "R/T like" comparisons.............
The Dodge division of Chrysler corporation had every opportunity in the world to offer a full-size flagship performance car with E86 and associated bling. They chose not to.
71Polara383
Kid with ballcap
Civilian models
They didn't need to.
Charger
Super Bee
Dart Swinger 340
Challenger
Leaving the Polara for the adults.
Stripes, scoops and spoilers are for children. Just a gimmick.
There is something about black cars that just makes them pop! Great photo from its birthplace........................
PM27L0D270593 was built by Richard Clayton. A friend of @70 Sport Suburban owns this gorgeous car and is a member here: @1970FuryS27 .
The fender tag is here; here is the VIN tag. EB7 with M4B3 interior; SBD of May 25, 1970 Pictures from the Clayton estate sale in 2016 can be found here. The car was discussed at the time in this thread.
The car has shown up several times at Mopars in the Park, most recently this year. Here it is in 2018:
The fender tag is here; here is the VIN tag. EB7 with M4B3 interior; SBD of May 25, 1970 Pictures from the Clayton estate sale in 2016 can be found here. The car was discussed at the time in this thread.
The car has shown up several times at Mopars in the Park, most recently this year. Here it is in 2018:
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Mid70's Chrysler Fanatic
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Love the interior on that Plymouth. You just can't get that kind of color in a new car anymore.
The body lines make Fusie convertibles some of the loveliest automobiles of the past 50+ years. I'd take one over a lot of "more prestigious" contemporaries. It's too bad that Ma Mopar couldn't/wouldn't offer the ragtops through '73.
it should be noted that the interior has been redone, from the factory it would have been a lighter blue with darker blue inserts.......
Tom the owner wants to put it back to factory style for sure!!
this showed up on FB....looking to sell for relative
I spotted this and thought wow, late date... Until I realized it was actually a very early date.
@Dutchrebuild 's car.
For Sale - Parting 1970 300 Convertible
@Dutchrebuild 's car.
For Sale - Parting 1970 300 Convertible
1970FuryConv
Old Man with a Hat
Like the change to road wheels 2018. Great looking car.
Thanks to the indefatigable @T-revorNobody, I became aware today of a seventh N-code 1970 Fury iii 'vert. Thanks!
PM27N0D106955 (like the other six we have ID'd so far) is pretty loaded. Early build date: Aug. 18, 1969.
This ragtop was initially FK3 but has been repainted something close to B5 blue; the headlights have also been replaced by SF hidden lights. It was auctioned off in June.
PM27N0D106955 (like the other six we have ID'd so far) is pretty loaded. Early build date: Aug. 18, 1969.
This ragtop was initially FK3 but has been repainted something close to B5 blue; the headlights have also been replaced by SF hidden lights. It was auctioned off in June.
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An another rare Fury iii 'vert is PM27L0D211199, an EV2 L-code with Y91 code and two tags whose SBD was Feb. 27, 1970 -- just a day before that of Snow White, my N-code Polara 'vert.
PM27L0D211199 is owned by @Kenneth DeVries who posted a bunch of nice pics here:
1970 Fury 3 convertible EV2 Show Car
PM27L0D211199 is owned by @Kenneth DeVries who posted a bunch of nice pics here:
1970 Fury 3 convertible EV2 Show Car
1970FuryConv
Old Man with a Hat
I think it's remarkable that N-code, 383 4bbl engine cars are so rare. With such a large motor, it seems the 2bbl would leave it under-powered and Chrysler would presumably have known that. Why do you think that most 383 cars came with 2bbl carbs? thanks.
I was not around at the time, so I can only guess. I venture that folks willing to put up with the lower fuel economy and the need for premium fuel of the four-barrel big blocks would have gone full-hog for the 440. But that is only my guess.
In the case of the Polara, it must not have helped that the 383-4, even though it was listed in the dealer data book and in the ordering information ("code guide"), was not even mentioned in the sale brochure (the snipped below was taken from the @ceebuddy 's great fuselage.de website):
If memory serves, @CBODY67 @saforwardlook and @Davea Lux have previously commented on this matter -- and they were around, working for Chrysler or a related company. Perhaps they could chime in?
The "popular" upgrade from the 318 was the 383 2bbl engine. The 318, 383-2, and 440 were the ONLY engine choices listed in the 1970 Dodge Polara/Monaco Owner's Manual. As my '70 Monaco had the 383/330 V-8 in it from the factory, I found that omission rather odd, unless the 383/330 might have been a mid-year option (as mine was built in March, 1970). The Monaco sales brochure I finally found was similar. BUT the FSM included the 383/330 in it!
The standard base gears with the 383 2bbl V-8 were the 2.76s, with 3.23 optional. Same with the 383/330, just reversed with the 3.23 standard and the 2.76 optional. In those years after the 1967 model year, the only real differences in 383 2bbl and the 303/330 engines were the carb and higher compression ratio of the 4bbl engine. Of course, the 383/335 (Road Runner/Super Bee/'Cuda 383/Challenger R/T) had the HP cam in them. So the real mpg (highway) differences would be due to the rear axle ratio, between the 2bbl and 4bbl. Which was somewhere like 2mpg less with the 3.23 gears than the 2.76 gears, as I recall.
Of course, the 440 would have had more power, but even lower mpg.
Enjoy!
CBODY67
Most vehicles sold back in those days were appliances to serve growing families where low price, value and good fuel economy were paramount for the bulk of customers. Performance upgrades on large vehicles were not high take items. That was more reserved for the B & E body crowds that were interested in the Rapid Transit System vehicles.
With the introduction of the 1969 Fuselage body platform for C-body cars, they could still be optioned with HO-oriented 4bbls, by observation. The 383HP (with the appropriate HP cam and such) was only for the B/E body cars, with the normal 383 4bbls having what was termed "Standard Cam". Which was the 256/260 cam from the 1966 model year (think 440/350 engine). Although the 440/375 was usually available (except for a few years when the 440/350 was the top engine in Plymouths).
The Fuselage Platform was more about smoothness and luxury than "street-fighter" performance, by observation. Being "longer and heavier" than the pre-69 C-body cars. They were still credible performers, though. As plucky as the 318 might have been, those cars could tend to be a bit too much, in some situations, for it, by observation. Which made the "next upgrade" engine the 383 2bbl. With the 383 2bbl providing more torque to cruise effortlessly at 70-90moh and still get reasonable fuel economy with the 2.76 rear axle gears (as in the torque peak mph being approx 85-90mph). So, for many drivers, no need for that "gas guzzling 4bbl option".
Just some thoughts and observations,
CBODY67
The Fuselage Platform was more about smoothness and luxury than "street-fighter" performance, by observation. Being "longer and heavier" than the pre-69 C-body cars. They were still credible performers, though. As plucky as the 318 might have been, those cars could tend to be a bit too much, in some situations, for it, by observation. Which made the "next upgrade" engine the 383 2bbl. With the 383 2bbl providing more torque to cruise effortlessly at 70-90moh and still get reasonable fuel economy with the 2.76 rear axle gears (as in the torque peak mph being approx 85-90mph). So, for many drivers, no need for that "gas guzzling 4bbl option".
Just some thoughts and observations,
CBODY67
1970FuryConv
Old Man with a Hat
I didn't know fuel economy was such a priority in in 1970. The OPEC oil embargo in 1973 made it a huge priority. I remember long lines at the gas stations, rationing so people couldn't fill their tank. Also, I think you could only buy gas every other day, depending on the last digit of your license plate, people with odd # last digit 1 day, even # the next. It's interesting to find out that gas mileage was a high priority in 1970. I just thought the big 3 put out more small engine cars because they were cheaper to manufacture.
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