1966 Fury III - Unfinished Project

[thethee]

Ah okay, nevermind then

 

[Philip Andrews]

Ah okay, nevermind then

Yeah I'm just getting back into doing anything with the car after a hiatus since November.

Again, down to trying to find the correct parts out of a collection of pieces from three different model year vehicles.

 

[Philip Andrews]

Oh-kaaaay.
It would appear I have a mix of early and late water pumps.
The 318 poly is long gone, replaced with a slightly later LA318.
It's got the water pump on it that exits downward to the lower passenger side, which is exactly where my lower radiator hose spigot isn't.
Looking on the Internet it would seem as though I need the earlier water pump that exits on the driver's side.

The engine block castings for the poly and LA are the same for water pumps? Otherwise I'm going to have to Heath Robinson some nonsense pipework from one side to the other and that's gonna suck.

Phil

 

[Ross Wooldridge]

If a suitable water pump housing can't be found, you might be able to have the radiator's lower tank modified - if there's a suitable flat area on the lower tank, a good rad shop can remove the lower neck from its current place and close the hole with brass sheet, and put the neck in the "correct" location for your water pump.

I did this with the top tank rad hose location many years ago - there was a suitable flat area on the tank to move the neck to.

Not sure if the lower tank can have a similar job done, but it's worth a look.

 

[Philip Andrews]

AutoZone list the driver's side exit water pump for $45 so that's not bad. Cheaper than having the radiator modified, particularly around here. The only radiator shop close by is run by a guy who thinks he's Midas and evening he touches is worth $800.

I'm ok having a hotchpotch system so long as I know what parts are from what!

 

[Philip Andrews]

Looks like the easiest solution may actually be a different radiator.

Shined up the chrome this afternoon, looks a bit more presentable now.

 

[Philip Andrews]

Found the remains of the hood ornament. It's missing the base, but hey. Better than not having it.

 

[Philip Andrews]

Spent this morning looking at dog dish hubcaps on eBay. I'm sure I have better things to do with my time...

 

[Philip Andrews]

Obtained a free battery. It's not for cars and it's old and janky but it works well enough.

Cobbled together the main coolant hoses. Might adjust them a little but they work.

Bypass hose on order. Need to get intake manifold gaskets.
How does the heater pipework plumb in?

Phil

 

[Philip Andrews]

Also, I have no idea which pulley is from what, these two don't want to coexist.

 

[Philip Andrews]

Needed a morale boost.

That worked.

 

[rkrochen]

Obtained a free battery. It's not for cars and it's old and janky but it works well enough.
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Cobbled together the main coolant hoses. Might adjust them a little but they work.
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Bypass hose on order. Need to get intake manifold gaskets.
How does the heater pipework plumb in?

Phil

Here are a couple of pics showing my heater hoses.

 

[Philip Andrews]

Hmm. Mine has aircon, and is much more complicated than that- yours makes sense!

 

['66 Fury I]

Post #270 Shows the nipples for the heater. One on the water pump, next to the bypass connection, the other standing up beside the thermostat housing.
Your pulley problem is probably due to the mis match of the newer water pump and the older crank pulley. Try mocking up the a/c compressor, alternator and ps pump. After all they all need to work together. Then someone will be able to offer some suggestions.

 

[Philip Andrews]

Post #270 Shows the nipples for the heater. One on the water pump, next to the bypass connection, the other standing up beside the thermostat housing.
Your pulley problem is probably due to the mis match of the newer water pump and the older crank pulley. Try mocking up the a/c compressor, alternator and ps pump. After all they all need to work together. Then someone will be able to offer some suggestions.

I only have a ps pump and alternator. Never got the aircon compressor.
What's likely to happen here is I'll get me an aftermarket aircon system and fit it up in place.

I'll dig the ps pump and alternator out and mock them up in place and see what we get.

The 318 poly is long gone, this is a later LA318 from (I think) a '68 car. I'm guessing the earlier pump is set higher up
I also have a pump for a 440 in my box. No idea why, I sadly appear to be missing the rest of the 440. That would've been nice to have had.

 

[Philip Andrews]

Post #270 Shows the nipples for the heater. One on the water pump, next to the bypass connection, the other standing up beside the thermostat housing.
Your pulley problem is probably due to the mis match of the newer water pump and the older crank pulley. Try mocking up the a/c compressor, alternator and ps pump. After all they all need to work together. Then someone will be able to offer some suggestions.

This end of the heater pipework is what's in question. Looking at it, engine to valve, valve to heater, to return?

 

[Ross Wooldridge]

If I recall correctly, the passenger side hose connections as you've marked them are backwards. The LOWER hose connection goes over to the hose connection closest to the passenger side of the two nearer the center of the firewall.

Clear as mud? Lol...

 

[Philip Andrews]

If I recall correctly, the passenger side hose connections as you've marked them are backwards. The LOWER hose connection goes over to the hose connection closest to the passenger side of the two nearer the center of the firewall.

Clear as mud? Lol...

I can never remember which side of those valves is meant to have pressure on.

 

[Ross Wooldridge]

I have to check myself... hence the qualifier "if I remember correctly"... coz I'm not at home...

Look up pictures on line to see.

 

[Philip Andrews]

Right now, that's how my heater hose is gonna be.

Turns out the bypass hose I bought was wrong; opted to hack a 90° elbow to work, which has proven adequate.