CanCritter
Senior Member
a joke in the making as far as lm concerned...once they outlaw gas engines they will jack up the electricity rates...couldn't imagine trying to run one of these cars in Ontario right now where they have jacked electricity rates....anyway received this from a relative....
As a
"joke", my Chev dealer gave me a Volt as a loaner while my full-size
pick-up was getting some attention. He thought it was funny to give his
energy company CEO this thing here on Vancouver Island!
I
live 30 kms outside of Victoria near Sidney.
The
battery was dead - later he admitted they almost never charged
it. While the car was "ok", on gasoline, it was pretty anemic.
So for the extra money, even taking into account Chev rebates
and Provincial incentives, you get an under-powered, heavy car
that felt "too small" for its actual size (battery has to go
somewhere).
Now
the kicker: at a neighborhood bbq, I was talking to a
Neighbour, a BC Hydro executive. I asked him how that
renewable thing was doing. He laughed, then got serious. If
you really intend to adopt electric vehicles, he pointed out,
you had to face certain realities. For example, a home
charging system for a Tesla requires 75 amp
service.
The
average house is equipped with 100 amp service. On our small
street (approx 25 homes), the electrical infrastructure would
be unable to carry more than 3 houses with a single Tesla,
each. For even half the homes to have electric vehicles, the
system would be wildly over-loaded.
This
is the elephant in the room with electric vehicles ... Our
residential infrastructure cannot bear the load. So as our
genius elected officials ram this nonsense down our collective
throats, not only are we being forced to buy the damn things
and replace our reliable, cheap generating systems with
expensive, new windmills and solar cells, but we will also
have to renovate our entire delivery system! This latter
"investment" will not be revealed until we're so far down this
dead end road that it will be presented with an oops and a
shrug.
If
you want to argue with a “green” person over cars that are
eco-friendly, just read the below:
Note:
However, if you ARE the green person, read it anyway.
Enlightening.
Eric
test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General
Motors...and he writes...For four days in a row, the fully
charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched
to the reserve gasoline engine.
Eric calculated the car got
30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the
range including the 9 gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery
is approximately 270 miles.
It
will take you 4 1/2 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then
add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip
time of 14.5 hours. In a typical road trip your average speed
(including charging time) would be 20 mph.
According
to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of
electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained
battery. The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is
never mentioned so I looked up what I pay for electricity. I
pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons)
$1.16 per kwh. 16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the
battery.
$18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per
mile to operate the Volt using the battery. Compare this to a
similar size car with a gasoline engine that gets only 32 mpg.
$3.19 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.10 per
mile.
The
gasoline powered car costs about $15,000 while the Volt costs
$46,000.........So the Government wants proud and loyal
Canadians not to do the math, but simply pay 3 times as much
for a car, that costs more than 7 times as much to run, and
takes 3 times longer to drive across the
country.....
Where
do I sign ?
As a
"joke", my Chev dealer gave me a Volt as a loaner while my full-size
pick-up was getting some attention. He thought it was funny to give his
energy company CEO this thing here on Vancouver Island!
I
live 30 kms outside of Victoria near Sidney.
The
battery was dead - later he admitted they almost never charged
it. While the car was "ok", on gasoline, it was pretty anemic.
So for the extra money, even taking into account Chev rebates
and Provincial incentives, you get an under-powered, heavy car
that felt "too small" for its actual size (battery has to go
somewhere).
Now
the kicker: at a neighborhood bbq, I was talking to a
Neighbour, a BC Hydro executive. I asked him how that
renewable thing was doing. He laughed, then got serious. If
you really intend to adopt electric vehicles, he pointed out,
you had to face certain realities. For example, a home
charging system for a Tesla requires 75 amp
service.
The
average house is equipped with 100 amp service. On our small
street (approx 25 homes), the electrical infrastructure would
be unable to carry more than 3 houses with a single Tesla,
each. For even half the homes to have electric vehicles, the
system would be wildly over-loaded.
This
is the elephant in the room with electric vehicles ... Our
residential infrastructure cannot bear the load. So as our
genius elected officials ram this nonsense down our collective
throats, not only are we being forced to buy the damn things
and replace our reliable, cheap generating systems with
expensive, new windmills and solar cells, but we will also
have to renovate our entire delivery system! This latter
"investment" will not be revealed until we're so far down this
dead end road that it will be presented with an oops and a
shrug.
If
you want to argue with a “green” person over cars that are
eco-friendly, just read the below:
Note:
However, if you ARE the green person, read it anyway.
Enlightening.
Eric
test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General
Motors...and he writes...For four days in a row, the fully
charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched
to the reserve gasoline engine.
Eric calculated the car got
30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the
range including the 9 gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery
is approximately 270 miles.
It
will take you 4 1/2 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then
add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip
time of 14.5 hours. In a typical road trip your average speed
(including charging time) would be 20 mph.
According
to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of
electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained
battery. The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is
never mentioned so I looked up what I pay for electricity. I
pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons)
$1.16 per kwh. 16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the
battery.
$18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per
mile to operate the Volt using the battery. Compare this to a
similar size car with a gasoline engine that gets only 32 mpg.
$3.19 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.10 per
mile.
The
gasoline powered car costs about $15,000 while the Volt costs
$46,000.........So the Government wants proud and loyal
Canadians not to do the math, but simply pay 3 times as much
for a car, that costs more than 7 times as much to run, and
takes 3 times longer to drive across the
country.....
Where
do I sign ?
