polara71
Old Man with a Hat
You can't buy a vehicle with the room of a truck and less heavy duty
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monaco75
Senior Member
This right hear. As long as it is doing what you need it to do, then thats all that matters. Which I believe is what stan is getting at. Nothing worse then a big lifted 3500 that only goes on trips to the grocery store.
Hey if you have the money, and thats what you want, fine. But a little over kill..
Mines used mostly as a DD. It has its jobs to do, and does what it needs. I prefer the look of the short box, and is all I need. If more room is needed, a quick call to a buddy with a trailer,or uhaul solves it.
One of the worst things with owning a truck though... LOL.
polara71
Old Man with a Hat
Because it is in the lot doesn't mean that is what it is used for.
Because someone does not have a need for it doesn't mean someone else doesn't use it....
That's all....it's gone too far, I'm done now
Two things happened yesterday that made me think of this thread.
First, I drove past the little Ford dealer that I've been buying cars at. My son worked there for quite a while and that got me in the door. Treating me nice got me to stay. I digress...
The front lot was full of Ford trucks... probably about 30 in a row. Typical for them, but it reminded me of just how much of their business is trucks. There's probably more trucks on their lot than cars.
Second thing. My youngest son has been driving my Excursion this week. It's a long story... He's had a rough month between his pizza shop closing and then his Jeep broke... He's managing another pizza shop until he figures out what to do (read-get out of the food biz) and selling off the equipment from his shop (anybody want to buy a dough mixer?).
He stopped up last night to work on his Jeep and told me that one of the construction guys that come in the pizza shop came in wondering who owned the Excursion. He flashed him an envelope with cash and offered $7k for it on the spot. He politely declined. Not bad for a 2003 truck I bought for $14k and a crappy trade in.... 9 years and 130K miles ago.
First, I drove past the little Ford dealer that I've been buying cars at. My son worked there for quite a while and that got me in the door. Treating me nice got me to stay. I digress...
The front lot was full of Ford trucks... probably about 30 in a row. Typical for them, but it reminded me of just how much of their business is trucks. There's probably more trucks on their lot than cars.
Second thing. My youngest son has been driving my Excursion this week. It's a long story... He's had a rough month between his pizza shop closing and then his Jeep broke... He's managing another pizza shop until he figures out what to do (read-get out of the food biz) and selling off the equipment from his shop (anybody want to buy a dough mixer?).
He stopped up last night to work on his Jeep and told me that one of the construction guys that come in the pizza shop came in wondering who owned the Excursion. He flashed him an envelope with cash and offered $7k for it on the spot. He politely declined. Not bad for a 2003 truck I bought for $14k and a crappy trade in.... 9 years and 130K miles ago.
Dobalovr
Being on the Cbody diet SUCKS!
Autotrader released its top ten searched vehicles so far this year:
#1 Jeep Wrangler
2-9 Trucks (sorry new mustang is #6 i think)
No wonder we can't get any in Canada...you 'Mericans are truck happy!
There's a lot of trucks in my area. Usually 4wd. Mostly Fords. Dodges are next in line with Chevy and Toyota about even. Jeeps were more prevalent when SUVs were the car of choice for soccer moms. Now it seems to be import crossovers. We also have a lot of Hyundai. I think that's because have Billy Fuciello's Hyundai commercials running 24/7 screaming "HUGE" and offering to get anyone financed.
Dobalovr
Being on the Cbody diet SUCKS!
Couple of factors maybe driving the Import business. One of them I believe is FCA thinking the Grand Cherokee should be competing with MB BMW etc. what soccer mom is gonna shell out $70k for what amounts to the family station wagon. They have way too much content in these Jeeps. Dummy them down and compete against natural enemies like the Exploder or Yukon IMHO. When Hummer disappeared Jeep went after that niche and got caught up in the luxury SUV market and abandoned the regular Joe buyer. Secondly the young family buyer has no allegiance to Brand like their parents did. The Korean makes are cheap highly equipped and in their price range. Quality and design not so much. Just spent 5 days driving around Denver in a Kia Sedona. Under powered poor fit and finish terrible seat stowing design etc. no where near as nice as a Grand Caravan but they sell cause they are cheap. BTW I had reserved a T&C but you know rental companies..we're all out but here is an upgrade to an Excursion...like my wife can get into an Excursion...idiots
70bigblockdodge
Old Man with a Hat
If FCA was smart they would put the eco diesel in a Grand Cherokee Laredo and beat the other two to it. I would be at the dealer this afternoon ordering it, I'll be God-damned if I am spending 50k+ on a vehicle that will have rust holes in the doors in 10 years not saying I won't drive it like that I just not 50k, keep the leather, sat nav, blind spot warning, big screen tv, and warranty and stick them up your a$$, all I need is a/c and heat and a iPod jack and I would not need that if car dealers would quit yelling at me on the radio to buy their POS cars. Glad I never have to buy a new car again.
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
On that one, you never can say never.
I said the same thing. Look at me now.
You haven't a clue what life pitches to you 20 years from now.
You have been warned.
70bigblockdodge
Old Man with a Hat
Your right they might make a Jeep Cherokee with a eco diesel that's not a loaded pig and under 30k and Tesla might sell a cheap electric car. Now back to reality.On that one, you never can say never.
I said the same thing. Look at me now.
You haven't a clue what life pitches to you 20 years from now.
You have been warned.
Dobalovr
Being on the Cbody diet SUCKS!
Read this today
Some people like to keep their tools in a toolbox
But society likes to keep its tools in BMW's...
FCA is only interested in building "Margin" vehicles which are the high end of each model. Putting high tech in a base model reduces "Margin" Ecodiesels require a significant amount of additional tech (emissions mostly)
Some people like to keep their tools in a toolbox
But society likes to keep its tools in BMW's...
FCA is only interested in building "Margin" vehicles which are the high end of each model. Putting high tech in a base model reduces "Margin" Ecodiesels require a significant amount of additional tech (emissions mostly)
twostick
Senior Member
Jeep has already done the Diesel thing. Liberty and GC.
Pretty sure the sales numbers were dismal.
North American car buyers just aren't into diesels for a variety of reasons, most of them ill informed.
Also I believe The Big Three are heavily invested in petroleum stocks so all they give is lip service to diesels.
60 MPG vehicles being the norm doesn't pay a lot of dividends over at EXXON.
Kevin
Pretty sure the sales numbers were dismal.
North American car buyers just aren't into diesels for a variety of reasons, most of them ill informed.
Also I believe The Big Three are heavily invested in petroleum stocks so all they give is lip service to diesels.
60 MPG vehicles being the norm doesn't pay a lot of dividends over at EXXON.
Kevin
Dobalovr
Being on the Cbody diet SUCKS!
Actually the Diesels sell well in Canada. In Alberta we sold more diesel GC's then V6's in 2014. High European heritage population. Diesel is sold at most every gas station so no need to find the truck stop version that seems to be the case down South.
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
Why diesels in anything but trucks. Seriously.
Dobalovr
Being on the Cbody diet SUCKS!
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
So to force us to drive vehicles that use less petroleum, we have to drive a vehicle that requires a dirtier fuel and requires more complex and costly technology to operate as cleanly as gasoline.
It's becoming all too clear now...
Dobalovr
Being on the Cbody diet SUCKS!
Thank Obama for that one. Granted the Manufacturer's would drag their feet forever to improve mileage without this program but...We will be happy to sell you the New 2021 Triple Turbo 3 cylinder Hemi in your new Ram. Get's 80MPG and can almost pull the Hat off your head...
Dobalovr
Being on the Cbody diet SUCKS!
Read this today... it has begun
"There has been plenty of speculation about the next generation Dodge Charger getting a twin turbocharged 4-cylinder, but we rarely mention the Dodge Challenger in those discussions – which I believe will also get the boosted 4-cylinder mill in the event that such an engine is offered in the Charger."
If the Dodge Charger Gets a Turbo 4, the Challenger Might, Too - Torque News
"There has been plenty of speculation about the next generation Dodge Charger getting a twin turbocharged 4-cylinder, but we rarely mention the Dodge Challenger in those discussions – which I believe will also get the boosted 4-cylinder mill in the event that such an engine is offered in the Charger."
If the Dodge Charger Gets a Turbo 4, the Challenger Might, Too - Torque News
That whole mess has the initials E.P.A.
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You should see what I can put into the back of a 1 ton extended baptist bus and close the doors. I think it's well over 12 feet behind the front seats, it's got a shade over 81K miles on its 360 and I have about 1500 bucks into it at the moment...
Actually not quite 12' behind the fron seats. Anyways, buy new?, no effing way!
Actually not quite 12' behind the fron seats. Anyways, buy new?, no effing way!
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