Chrysler-badged Fusie Cop Cars?

['69FuryIIIConvertible]

Chryslers and Imperials of that era were built at, and only at, the Jefferson (C code) plant. C body Plymouths and Dodges were built at Belvedere (D), Newark (F), and, prior to 1970 (?), Windsor (R plant).

69 Was indeed the last year for C body production in Windsor.

 

['69FuryIIIConvertible]

one of these threads, that didnt start as a cop car topic, has a couple A38 fusie fender tags/buildsheets.

my observations before that were same as yours .. L, M, or H second VIN digits, NO A38 but YES Y39 and often a second "special handling" tag.

Sanow and Bellah's book called out A38 with Plymouth starting in 1971 -- that started a big argument to my recollection in one of those threads I am recalling.

Another has about 15-20 "F" codes (spotlights, welds, wiring harness for roof lights,single keys, etc). where we chipped in and provided what we knew .. until someone chipped in with the mother lode.

i searched and didnt find any of these threads but they're out there. maybe someone else knows or can search better than me?

The tags I have are just Y39 and have 999 paint codes and a second tag with "SPECIAL ORDER" "SPECIAL PAINT"

 

[amazinblue82]

The tags I have are just Y39 and have 999 paint codes and a second tag with "SPECIAL ORDER" "SPECIAL PAINT"

yes, those look familiar to me.. I too have seen/own/owned cars with those tags. thanks!

 

[fc7_plumcrazy]

Chryslers and Imperials of that era were built at, and only at, the Jefferson (C code) plant. C body Plymouths and Dodges were built at Belvedere (D), Newark (F), and, prior to 1970 (?), Windsor (R plant).

I had a 70 Sport Suburban buillt in Windsor.
Here is a Dodge, too

Carsten

 

[polara71]

could be geography...C is Jefferson Avenue plant in Detroit. Almost all ive ever seen

69 Was indeed the last year for C body production in Windsor.

I believe the Windsor plant stopped mid way through the 70 model year.

 

[polara71]

I had a 70 Sport Suburban buillt in Windsor.
Here is a Dodge, too
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Carsten

Thanks for that... I was stuck on this thread and had to confirm my thoughts then got stuck on Jeopardy.

 

[polara71]

I had a 70 Sport Suburban buillt in Windsor.
Here is a Dodge, too
View attachment 109401

Carsten

That was a pretty car .....

 

[A38E86D32]

My 2 cents worth...

I've yet to see the A38 code on a Fusey cop cars Fender tag.....instead I have seen the Y39 Special order code and the K designation in the VIN, or the Y39 and M designation.

I personally think that the A38 was a 74+designation for the most part. Prior to that it was mostly Special order stuff if you didn't want the standard Police Package.

I've got the tags off a 73 Fury I Toronto Metro police cruiser. It is optioned very oddly.

Which of anyone has a full list of Molar fleet option codes, please PM me.

Nick

Here is the tag from my '71 Plymouth Fury III NJSP car. A38 and Y39

 

[amazinblue82]

Here is the tag from my '71 Plymouth Fury III NJSP car. A38 and Y39

Ok great!. Medium price class, E86, A38, and Y39 .. in 1971. thanks for that!

Lines up with Sanow and Bellah's book that Plymouth had A38 in 1971. Somebody else here produced a 72 Polara with it -- A38 and a L price class.

all we gotta do is try to help ya find out how many U-Code Fury III's got built .. folks here are resourceful and hopefully can turn that up for ya.

 

[polara71]

Ok great!. Medium price class, E86, A38, and Y39 .. in 1971. thanks for that!

Lines up with Sanow and Bellah's book that Plymouth had A38 in 1971. Somebody else here produced a 72 Polara with it -- A38 and a L price class.

all we gotta do is try to help ya find out how many U-Code Fury III's got built .. folks here are resourceful and hopefully can turn that up for ya.

Bill or Kevin could IF they wanted to take the time. Problem is, as soon as they offer up numbers for one a long line forms of guys wanting numbers looking for that one of one.

 

[amazinblue82]

Bill or Kevin could IF they wanted to take the time. Problem is, as soon as they offer up numbers for one a long line forms of guys wanting numbers looking for that one of one.

wasnt aware of that ... anyway, then its not an option thanks!

 

[polara71]

They both helped Fred and myself with numbers on the 70 convertible. It took years to obtain as Im sure theyre extremely busy and every guy out there needs to know.

 

[69CoronetRT]

I had a 70 Sport Suburban buillt in Windsor.
Here is a Dodge, too
View attachment 109401

Carsten

Thanks. I was too lazy to get of the iPad in one room to check tags on the PC in another.

 

[69CoronetRT]

Ok great!. Medium price class, E86, A38, and Y39 .. in 1971. thanks for that!

Lines up with Sanow and Bellah's book that Plymouth had A38 in 1971. Somebody else here produced a 72 Polara with it -- A38 and a L price class.

FWIW...I've seen A38 on a 71 Dodge tag.

 

[amazinblue82]

FWIW...I've seen A38 on a 71 Dodge tag.

yes i am sure that's true. thanks!

to my knowledge, no one has reported/posted evidence of A38 prior to 1971 on any C-body fusie here on this forum but there's no way to know for sure.

We have seen Dodge and Plymouth A38's in 1971 and 1972 on Plymouth and Dodge fuselage cars.

Waiting on that elusive A38 on 71-73 Chrysler-badged fusie .., OR a K in second position on VIN that would be indicative of a police car.

 

[amazinblue82]

My 1972 NJ State Police Fury III, unmarked car. H in VIN, U code, E86, several F codes, and Y39 -- No A38

 

[A38E86D32]

My 1972 NJ State Police Fury III, unmarked car. H in VIN, U code, E86, several F codes, and Y39 -- No A38

View attachment 109464

I'm pretty sure A38 would've been on the build sheet, just not on the fender tag, from what i gather. Also i believe '71 was the last year that the fuseys had the A38 code on the fender tag.
I could be wrong but this is all what I've learned from my research.

 

[amazinblue82]

I'm pretty sure A38 would've been on the build sheet, just not on the fender tag, from what i gather. Also i believe '71 was the last year that the fuseys had the A38 code on the fender tag.
I could be wrong but this is all what I've learned from my research.

we are all just contributing what we know .. or in some cases can prove. No "fights" yet either

my 72 polara had A38 on buildsheet but not on fender tag. but i can no longer "prove" that with documents.

the buildsheet for my '72 NJSP Fury III no longer exists unfortunately .. the car may never have left the factory with it. Its got cool hidden headlights tho

thx!

 

[shooter65]

My thoughts on the WVSP car are that a fleet was ordered under contract through WV DGS Purchasing Division Business
West Virginia Purchasing Division
I worked for the Pennsylvania Department of Corrections for about 5 years supporting IT for the institution I worked at and a couple others to cover when people were on vaca. I still have close friends in the system.
I also have a friend who is a retired PSP corporal. He joined PSP in the early 70's and although PA's state police force was and is larger than WV, state police departments could special order cruisers with whatever they wanted. I know for a fact that PSP ordered a specific cam in the 440's in the late 60's and I believe that practice continued into the early 70's. Michigan and CHP also custom ordered to this detail.
My sister lives in WV and WVSP still use the same paint scheme that appears to be used since the mid 50's blue with a gold top. Thanks to Amazinblue for the website but it looks like WV has a long history of using Chryslers for State Police cruisers.
State Trooper Plates || SP/HP Agencies
I believe the 73 Chrysler is a police pkg car ordered as a fleet by WVSP but I'm only guessing based on the pics below and the comments above.

http://www.statetrooperplates.com/agencies.html

 

[amazinblue82]

These Fleet codes look to have been GENERALLY used from late 1960's to 1980.

I know its not complete .. for example, I have an "F42" code on my 72 Fury .. dunno what that is.

As such, I would not call it "authoritative", but can give guidance.

Anybody have "F" codes to add? Refute with evidence? Please post

I am not vouching for the accuracy/completeness of this content. You should use sources you trust if not this one.

Source: Broadcast Vin Fender Tag Decoder for Mopar Dodge Chrysler Plymouth

Fleet Codes (including Engine codes they could get):

E44 318-2
E45 318-2-hp-73-4
E55 340-4 69-73
E55 340-6-w/a53pkg/70
E55 360-2 cbody
E56 340-6
E57 360-2
E58 340-4 hp/police
E61 383-2
E62 383-4-69
E63 383-4
E63 400-2 72-76
E64 400-4
E65 383-4 rr/sbee
E68 400-4-hp
E74 426-2-4 hemi
E80 440-4
E86 440-4 hp
E87 440-6-hp

F01 police
F08 transam eng
F11 46 amp Alt 69
F11 50 amp Alt
F11 70amp/1970/71
F12 41amp alt
F13 60 amp alt
F15 75 amp alt
F17 radio suppressor pkg
F17 100 amp alt
F17 114 amp alt
F18 65 amp hd/alt
F22 46 a/h battery
F23 59 a/h 375 cca bat
F24 325cca battery
F25 70-a/h 440 red cap
F27 500 cca battery
F28 500 a/h battery
F33 LH 6" spotlight
F35 RH 6"spotlight
F38 Rf.Lt. reinforcement
F42 ???
F46 roof light wiring
F51 double bottm gas tnk
F52 man Lw gear block
F56 Anti freeze
F57 T-bar RR eng mount
F58 RR reinforce weld
F62 NY taxi headliner
F65 assist straps
F81 deck lid release knb
F82 power deck release
F83 stainless hose clmp
F88 eng oil cooler
F91 vinyl back light
F95 certified speedo
F96 oil-press/temp Gge.