Exact starter switch

[70NPORT]

Question: Where to score an exact fit steering column starter switch for 69-73 Chryslers?

THIS Rock Auto pos I received is not an exact fit/replica of the OEM switch. They claim it is. It has eight holes/slots but only 4 pins. The original piece has 8 slots and 8 pins...1 pin in ea slot.

Had better luck with other vendor?

 

[70NPORT]

Bump......anybody? anybody? this really sucks.

 

[bulldogchesty]

Could you use one from a 68 Newport?

 

[70NPORT]

The two steering columns (68' vs. 70') are very different, also I looked up the 68' switch and it appears to be totally different from the 70', but thanks much nonetheless.

 

[Big_John]

So... do the connectors fit together? How many wires go to the steering column plug and how many come from the ignition switch?

Do the wires line up?

If the switch is the same as the original and it's just a matter of switching connectors or wires, then that's going to be easy.

 

[70NPORT]

So... do the connectors fit together? How many wires go to the steering column plug and how many come from the ignition switch?

Do the wires line up?

If the switch is the same as the original and it's just a matter of switching connectors or wires, then that's going to be easy.

No, if you can tell by the first picture the RA piece is missing 4 connectors, and if that is not confusing enough, the wire colors don't match.

 

[commando1]

Um, Gary.....
Isn't that the connector for the TURN SIGNAL??

 

[Big_John]

How many wires are coming from the old switch and how many wires from the new switch?

We may just have to figure out the proper goesintas and goesoutas and put them into the old connector.

 

[Big_John]

Um, Gary.....
Isn't that the connector for the TURN SIGNAL??

There are two 8 wire connectors in the column, one for the turn signal harness and one for the ignition switch.

 

[vdk2010]

You can buy the connectors separately.

Like these for example from my VW..


the missing wires are probably for features that are not included!?

You can remove the connectors with cables from the old piece. It's a pain in the *** to remove these connectors but that would be the easiest way, I guess?!

 

[70NPORT]

Um, Gary.....
Isn't that the connector for the TURN SIGNAL??

Nope. Uh, Uh. That's still still hanging of my steering column. I complete removed the starter switch yesterday.

 

[saylor]

ya +1 on pinning it out yourself.

the electronics shop will have a tool that can remove those pins out of the plastic block

 

[70NPORT]

...........the last two pics are the RA switch configuration vs. the original, different colors, missing connectors......and only 6 wires, original has 8. (no.2 pic is turn signal switch Stan, just got it hanging for now).

 

[Big_John]

I've been trying to find just what the wiring to the switch looks like.

Found another switch (think it's the same) if that helps.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mopar-1970-...970|Make:Chrysler&hash=item565fb5eb16&vxp=mtr

 

[70NPORT]

You can buy the connectors separately.

Like these for example from my VW..
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the missing wires are probably for features that are not included!?

You can remove the connectors with cables from the old piece. It's a pain in the *** to remove these connectors but that would be the easiest way, I guess?!

I probably should of pulled the original wires out first before buying the "exact" friken replacement piece from RA. I would rather replace the entire item then to be forced to have to hack/hash/cobble up a new one to fit.

 

[Big_John]

The two red w/ white tracer wires are for the buzzer switch. The buzzer switch isn't part of the ignition switch, but it plugs into the same harness.

 

[Big_John]

If you have 6 wires going to the back of both switches, then we're almost there.

Look at the back of the new switch and the old switch. Make yourself a sketch of the color wires that are in the positions or "clocked" on the old switch vs. the new switch.

From there it's a matter of switching wires at the connectors. Leave the 2 red w/white trace wires as they are in the old connector and switch the new wires to the old connector one at a time.

As was posted, you can get the tools to unclip the connectors.

 

[68plymouth383]

I would go to my local auto parts store and match up your old switch to the new one. Advance auto stocks the Borg Warner Switches. There good quality and the wire colors match up. Iam posting the O'reilly link for reference. It shows an 8 wire switch. http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/d...on+switch_1066250_620&keyword=ignition+switch


http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/bwd-ignition-switch-cs82/3992462-P?searchTerm=cs82#

 

[70NPORT]

I've been trying to find just what the wiring to the switch looks like.

Found another switch (think it's the same) if that helps.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mopar-1970-...970|Make:Chrysler&hash=item565fb5eb16&vxp=mtr

Yeh, this looks exactly like the Rock Auto piece. Maybe the exact original isn't produced anywhere. Meaning there maybe some hacking involved here?

 

[Big_John]

I probably should of pulled the original wires out first before buying the "exact" friken replacement piece from RA. I would rather replace the entire item then to be forced to have to hack/hash/cobble up a new one to fit.

Really... if this is the right switch and it's just a matter of switching connectors... You aren't hacking anything...

It's nice when stuff just fits.... but hey... these are old cars and the new parts aren't always exactly the same.

Be patient. If this was easy... everyone would have an old car.