Ok I'm Bored Tonight Let's settle This Once And For All

[azblackhemi]

The "Subframe / Stubframe debate. Personally I have always called it a Subframe but if you want to call it a Stubframe that's fine. However out of boredom tonight I googled "Chrysler Subframe and came up with hundreds of pages for it. When I googled Chrysler Stubframe it defaulted to Subframe. So as of now that's my reason for calling it Subframe. Lets hear your arguments.

 

[thrashingcows]

I'm with you on this one Chris. Subframe is what it's called. The other camp must be just a little soft in the head....

 

[MrMoparCHP]

Ok as some probably know I'm of the show me factory documentation group.

From the Factory Dodge Polara/Monaco 1969 Service Manual
Page 23-89 in the Body and Frame section

Pretty clear to me.
BTW the "K-Member" as it is commonly called on the A, B & E bodies is just a "Crossmember"

Alan

 

[polara71]

That is exactly what Stan brought to the table in the other thread.... documentation. Its a stub frame... i learned something nee that day

 

[detmatt]

Referred to as stub in the FSM for my Imperial to, is it because the whole thing is removable? Unlike the A, B and E bodies.

 

[polara71]

Probably.... good thought. ... who really knows?

 

[detmatt]

I'll have to refer to one of my fsm's for those cars next time I'm at the shop.

 

[Samplingman]

Factory manual aside, I would imagine a "sub-frame" would be the length of the car, where the "stub-frame" is self explanatory.

 

[BIGBARNEYCARS]

AAARRRGGGHHHH, Chris, Yer' makin' my head hurt! THANKZ AH LOT

 

[commando1]

Says "Stub Frame" in all the factory lit.
End of story. Doesn't bother me a twit if it's called a sub-frame by anybody.
Here's some guys that said stub frame long before I mentioned it initially:

http://cbodyhomeport.yuku.com/topic/3685/66-Newport-REALLY-rusty-stub-frame#.UmfX3lA4V6I

It's the posi thing that squeezes my nuts.

 

[BIGBARNEYCARS]

Sure Grips 'um good aye Stan?

 

[commando1]

Sure Grips 'um good aye Stan?

And then you get these azzholes who perpetuate the whole damn thing.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mopar-8-3-4...r_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c37f2784d

 

[bluefury361]

I concider the factory pars book as the "holy grail". In my 69 parts book it is refered to as a "frame" ....... NO stub & NO sub.

I've always used "sub" frame to describe it but accepted the term "stub" frame as refered to in the FSM.

From now on...... to me ...... It will be a "FRAME" ....! You call it what you like... LOL.

 

[thrashingcows]

I will have to check my 68 FSM manual and see what it calls it. I still think Stub Frame is wrong...regardless of the designation in the FSM. I just think it does not sound right...does not flow right when spoken.

 

[70bigblockdodge]

Matt has a sub frame under his stub frame in his imperial of course I guess it couldbe called a k frame that's rubber isolated and under from the stub frame rails on a D-body.

 

[polara71]

The mystery is over....

 

[commando1]

You know damn well that from now on when anybody Googles "Mopar stub frame",all the hits will be for FCBO only.

 

[70bigblockdodge]

Nope not yet still get mopar muscle and some mustang two crap

 

[Fratzog]

I will have to check my 68 FSM manual and see what it calls it. I still think Stub Frame is wrong...regardless of the designation in the FSM. I just think it does not sound right...does not flow right when spoken.

68 FSM also refers to it as "stub" frame.

 

[1978 NYB]

My 1978 FSM clearly has it as a stub frame.

This forum is the only only place I refer to it as a stub frame.........