Rusty Muffler
Active Member
I'd like to install 4 standard lap belts in my 57 Belvedere. Were there optional seat belts when new and where do I drill the holes?
Seat belt placement?
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Sixpactogo
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I believe they were an option already in 57 but few cars got them. My 60 Dart did not have belts but the mounting spots were provided. Not sure about 57 but here is what to look for. Under the floor pan, look for some dimples up in the hump and to the rear of the front seat. Here are some pics of where mine were and what they look like. I only added the front belts but I did look for the dimples for the rear belts. I found the outer rear dimples in the wheel wells and the inner ones under the rear seat.
Sixpactogo
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Here is another tip....If you already have the carpet installed, you don't want to drill a hole thru the carpet. What I did was drill a 1/4" hole in the dimple from underneath. Push a scratch awl up through the carpet then heat up a length of 1/4" pipe to melt a 5/8" hole in the carpet.
Then drill the 9/16" hole for the anchor. Here are some more pics.
Hope it helps.
Then drill the 9/16" hole for the anchor. Here are some more pics.
Hope it helps.
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SGT FURY
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I have a 61 Fury that has factory installed seat belts.
This is what they look like for 61.
Mopar logo inside the gold shield.
A VERY rare option for standard production passenger cars in 61.
I believe my 61 was a autorama show car with many unusual options.
Police package 61s had about 40% build ratio with factory belts.
This is from Darrel Davis book.
#7 from IBM card breakdown.
If I were installing belts in a non belted car I would use the mounting hardware from a 62-64 Chryslers
This is what they look like for 61.
Mopar logo inside the gold shield.
A VERY rare option for standard production passenger cars in 61.
I believe my 61 was a autorama show car with many unusual options.
Police package 61s had about 40% build ratio with factory belts.
This is from Darrel Davis book.
#7 from IBM card breakdown.
If I were installing belts in a non belted car I would use the mounting hardware from a 62-64 Chryslers
SGT FURY
Senior Member
I got these belts out of a 1955 Buick. I think a dealer installed belt. I will be using these in one of my 61s. Yes I know they are old,but I would rather have them than nothing at all.
SGT Fury
I hope you are planning to get your can get your belts re-webbed. Looking at the pics, they appear to be frayed.
The original labels can be reused if desired. They can either be sent out to a seat belt vendor (Seat Belt Planet www.seatbeltplanet.com, (a veteran owned company), Retro Belt www.retrobelt.com these are two that I know of.)
A trivia piece of knowledge; according to my upholstery guy, there are only two manufactures of seat belt webbing. Both are in Europe.
Stay Warm
Omni
I hope you are planning to get your can get your belts re-webbed. Looking at the pics, they appear to be frayed.
The original labels can be reused if desired. They can either be sent out to a seat belt vendor (Seat Belt Planet www.seatbeltplanet.com, (a veteran owned company), Retro Belt www.retrobelt.com these are two that I know of.)
A trivia piece of knowledge; according to my upholstery guy, there are only two manufactures of seat belt webbing. Both are in Europe.
Stay Warm
Omni
SGT FURY
Senior Member
If I can get a vintage looking like belt material?
Otherwise I will use them as is!
(Don’t do this at home)
I have on occasion used seat belts to use as sling to pull or move engines around when I didn’t have a chain handy
Otherwise I will use them as is!
(Don’t do this at home)
I have on occasion used seat belts to use as sling to pull or move engines around when I didn’t have a chain handy
SGT FURY
Senior Member
While on the subject of seat belts. I got these belts from a 66 Newport. They must have fallen under rear seats when new?
Still had these factory seat belt operating instructions on them.
Anybody ever seen these instructions before?
Still had these factory seat belt operating instructions on them.
Anybody ever seen these instructions before?
Check out there web sites. You can get swatches (samples)
Omni
Sixpactogo
Well-Known Member
I bought a set of belts for my 60 Dart a couple years back from these guys. (Andover Restraints) I believe they are out of business now but have a couple sets left on Ebay.
Might want to check them out. I believe the 74" belts work for the front and 60" for the rear seat. At least they look period correct IMO.
Grey Non Retractable Gray Lap Seat Belt Deluxe Kit For 2 Person/Position, 74" | eBay
Might want to check them out. I believe the 74" belts work for the front and 60" for the rear seat. At least they look period correct IMO.
Grey Non Retractable Gray Lap Seat Belt Deluxe Kit For 2 Person/Position, 74" | eBay
I happened upon this today. Maybe it can help.
bluefury361
Old Man with a Hat
Belts for your 57 were only available through the factory accessory book over the counter. Placement is where ever is comfortable for you.
Originals had a bolt with a loop in the floor with a large washer on the underside. The belt attached with a forged clip.
Originals had a bolt with a loop in the floor with a large washer on the underside. The belt attached with a forged clip.
bluefury361
Old Man with a Hat
This is a example of a original OEM seat belt including NOS mounting hardware. The correct belt material is called (7 panel). Look close at it.
The webbing material is usually available on ebay in many colors although all originals were a tan/brown color.
Most trimmers won't stitch new sebbing unless they know you well enough. It's illegal for them to do it.
These will be installed in my 61 convertible when the time comes.
The webbing material is usually available on ebay in many colors although all originals were a tan/brown color.
Most trimmers won't stitch new sebbing unless they know you well enough. It's illegal for them to do it.
These will be installed in my 61 convertible when the time comes.
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