commando1
Old Man with a Hat
Hey, lose some weight or have people continue to ask stupid questions...
Scenicruisin'..?
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70bigblockdodge
Old Man with a Hat
I'm trying dammit.Hey, lose some weight or have people continue to ask stupid questions...
azblackhemi
Old Man with a Hat
Thought this was pretty cool. BUS CONVERSION
BUS CONVERSION - $37500 (Yuma)
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Western Flyer
fuel: diesel
rv type: other
title status: clean
transmission: manual
This is a professionally converted 1962 Western Flyer cross country Canadian troop carrier. The unit is #235 of 236 produced between 1947 and 1962 using the same body design. The company is still in business producing transit buses under the name of Flyer. The 1995 conversion used a Fleetwood brand interior including doors, paneling, bathroom and appliances. Sleeping is a full queen in the rear plus double couch and dinette. The roof was raised 6"and most windows were replaced with Hehr rv units. The unit now rides on 24.5 aluminum wheels with 6 Toyo tires all replaced in May '19. Powered by an International DT466 (turbo diesel with about 120,000 miles) followed by a Fuller 10 speed Road Ranger transmission and a Telma driveline retarder. Cruises 65 @2000rpm and gets 9-10 mpg towing. 6500 propane Onan with under 300 hours. Enough storage for a full size Harley. Owned 25 years and stored inside when not in use. All regular maintenance is easily performed and parts are readily available. There are no hi tech electronics. Factory manuals for the bus, engine, transmission, and retarder are included. ONE OF A KIND. Will be at IMS Raceway from Wednesday11-06 till Monday 11-11.
BUS CONVERSION - $37500 (Yuma)
image 2 of 9
© craigslist - Map data © OpenStreetMap
(google map)
Western Flyer
fuel: diesel
rv type: other
title status: clean
transmission: manual
This is a professionally converted 1962 Western Flyer cross country Canadian troop carrier. The unit is #235 of 236 produced between 1947 and 1962 using the same body design. The company is still in business producing transit buses under the name of Flyer. The 1995 conversion used a Fleetwood brand interior including doors, paneling, bathroom and appliances. Sleeping is a full queen in the rear plus double couch and dinette. The roof was raised 6"and most windows were replaced with Hehr rv units. The unit now rides on 24.5 aluminum wheels with 6 Toyo tires all replaced in May '19. Powered by an International DT466 (turbo diesel with about 120,000 miles) followed by a Fuller 10 speed Road Ranger transmission and a Telma driveline retarder. Cruises 65 @2000rpm and gets 9-10 mpg towing. 6500 propane Onan with under 300 hours. Enough storage for a full size Harley. Owned 25 years and stored inside when not in use. All regular maintenance is easily performed and parts are readily available. There are no hi tech electronics. Factory manuals for the bus, engine, transmission, and retarder are included. ONE OF A KIND. Will be at IMS Raceway from Wednesday11-06 till Monday 11-11.
300rag
It's Not Going to Shift Itself
There is something to be said for the layout possibilities in a front engine design. The extra noise on the other hand...
Old Mike
Well-Known Member
Sultana, built in Mexico by Ramirez. Have any of these monsters ever made it north of the border?
Sultanas was my third choice. problem is steering mechanism .. it goes and they do, you're fabbin' outta unobtanium.
from post #622. i still like 'em -- never seen ONE north of the border in the continental USA though i am sure a few musta come over (CA, AZ, NM, TX due to proximity)
from post #622. i still like 'em -- never seen ONE north of the border in the continental USA though i am sure a few musta come over (CA, AZ, NM, TX due to proximity)
Sickening .. but if ya got the lettuce to go "Big Willie" style why not? See what you can do for $2.5M?
Not interested ..my decision long made and now I am "pregnant" in the first trimester of my resto.
1990 Prevost COUNTRY COACH | eBay
When PD 4501 is done, this is where I will be in it. It wont look like this, but this is what $100K gets. Little too gaudy for me but well planned and executed. not open enough .. too much like a house for me, but again well done coach.
Prevosts were on my list and good used coaches are about here. Just dont have the "character" of the old Flxies, Crowns, Sultanas, early Eagles, and Silversides all through this thread
1990 Prevost COUNTRY COACH | eBay
When PD 4501 is done, this is where I will be in it. It wont look like this, but this is what $100K gets. Little too gaudy for me but well planned and executed. not open enough .. too much like a house for me, but again well done coach.
Prevosts were on my list and good used coaches are about here. Just dont have the "character" of the old Flxies, Crowns, Sultanas, early Eagles, and Silversides all through this thread
The Smith truck would be ideal for someone who never intends to drive it themselves... the Prevost is a nice enough driving home, but is lacking soul. My favorite part about the truck was the ability to hold a proper party on the second floor while viewing an outside event. Put that in the middle of any outdoor event and you've got it made.
To combine practical and cool... this is nearly perfect...
To combine practical and cool... this is nearly perfect...
300rag
It's Not Going to Shift Itself
You have probably seen this, but here it is anyways...
I liked this '47 Silverside. His cabinet locks are unique.
I liked this '47 Silverside. His cabinet locks are unique.
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mr. fix it
Old Man with a Hat
Was this a pre-curser tothe Greyhound buses?
thats a late 20's Kenworth bus ... clearly one of a dozen or so Scenicruiser design predecessors GM and Greyhound were inspired by.
The link below has an thread with a debate on this design .. worth a read if interested
source: The Kenworth W-1 Deck and a Half – A High Style Pre-War Bus | The Old Motor
Last fall the Kenworth W-1 Deck and a Half Bus was covered here on The Old Motor and just recently the interesting photo above was found of this Washington Motor Coach System unit.
To bring you up to date as many as 25 of these pre-war buses were built by the Pacific Car and Foundry Co. Power was provided by a Hall-Scott Model 190 horizontal 779 c.i. gasoline engine that produced 240 h.p.
The rear-mounted engine and the luggage compartment are located below the floor of the elevated rear passenger compartment.
JEFF ·July 3, 2018 at 5:03 pm
I am pretty sure this is a Kenworth KHO-33, a collaboration between Kenworth Motor Truck and Heiser Body Company.
The Kenworth W-1 was a post war design which entered service in about 1948. About 15 went to North Coast Transportation and 5 or so went to a firm in Montana. The North Coast buses ended up as Greyhounds and were retired in the mid 1950s. I saw them all parked in a fenced yard before they were surplussed.
My father, Sherman Howard, designed the W-1 body, and a gentleman named H. L. Simi designed the chassis. The body design also served as the basis for several suburban, trackless trolley, and school bus layouts up till Kenworth exited the bus business in 1957. The front and rear end caps, side windows and seats were the only body differences between all those models.
There is only one known W-1 survivor, which was rescued from a field in Western Washington after laying unused for many years. It was cleaned up by the buyer and later sold to a bus line owner and collector in the Midwest. It is awaiting restoration.
I am pretty sure this is a Kenworth KHO-33, a collaboration between Kenworth Motor Truck and Heiser Body Company.
The Kenworth W-1 was a post war design which entered service in about 1948. About 15 went to North Coast Transportation and 5 or so went to a firm in Montana. The North Coast buses ended up as Greyhounds and were retired in the mid 1950s. I saw them all parked in a fenced yard before they were surplussed.
My father, Sherman Howard, designed the W-1 body, and a gentleman named H. L. Simi designed the chassis. The body design also served as the basis for several suburban, trackless trolley, and school bus layouts up till Kenworth exited the bus business in 1957. The front and rear end caps, side windows and seats were the only body differences between all those models.
There is only one known W-1 survivor, which was rescued from a field in Western Washington after laying unused for many years. It was cleaned up by the buyer and later sold to a bus line owner and collector in the Midwest. It is awaiting restoration.
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azblackhemi
Old Man with a Hat
Interesting thread on Station Wagon Forums.
Vintage Bus Pictures | Station Wagon Forums
Vintage Bus Pictures | Station Wagon Forums
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
This is why I can never own an RV. I take the ramps too quickly...
300rag
It's Not Going to Shift Itself
You'll only leave stuff loose once.
70bigblockdodge
Old Man with a Hat
Nice wagon, too bad it is pulled by a very ugly COE truck.
this whole thread and don't believe I have ever posted this photo.
The twin-engine module (allegedly this is it .. well known that they were all retrofitted out in early '60's) of the dual 4-71s the PD-4501's were designed with.
My understanding they faced the rear, slid in and out as one assembly for easier maintenance. I cannot tell how tranny was configured for the two detroits, but its aligned with long axis of the coach.
Whisperer tried to explain to me once .. went over my head with a vapor trail behind it
this pic below IS here. vintage pre-1960 in a coach with dual 4-71's. this evidence (rear griills, two doors, etc) seems to match the engine module above.
The twin-engine module (allegedly this is it .. well known that they were all retrofitted out in early '60's) of the dual 4-71s the PD-4501's were designed with.
My understanding they faced the rear, slid in and out as one assembly for easier maintenance. I cannot tell how tranny was configured for the two detroits, but its aligned with long axis of the coach.
Whisperer tried to explain to me once .. went over my head with a vapor trail behind it
this pic below IS here. vintage pre-1960 in a coach with dual 4-71's. this evidence (rear griills, two doors, etc) seems to match the engine module above.
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70bigblockdodge
Old Man with a Hat
Wow nothing like adding extra complexity
twostick
Senior Member
The 8v71 didn't exist at the time and 1 6-71 I'm assuming didn't have the steam they were looking for.
GM had experience during the war running tandem 6-71's so it seems reasonable given the packaging restraints that 2 4-71's would work. My understanding is they could never get the 2 engines to run in sync so they just shook themselves to pieces.
IIRC the transmission was a 3 spd with a 2 spd diff.
I've never seen a picture of them before. I always assumed they just ran them standing straight up.
Kevin
twostick
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