polara10x500
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Can anyone else just reach in their 69 flip SL switch on at the panel with no key, car off and have SL come on provided the floor dimmer is on low beam and headlight switch still in off position?
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carfreak6970
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I dont know how the 69's are wired, but for the 70's the super light should only be able to come on with the headlight switch turned on, superlite switch on and the dimmer switch in the "high beam" position.
the head lights can be on with the key off. And since the the super light is fed by the same circuit as the dome lights the superlite and headlights can be on with the key in the off position.
BillHickman
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I own a car which is equipped with a super lite
carfreak6970
Member
On top of getting the superlite in and working there was a bunch of other work that was completed over winter on this polara. One being new rear springs with a 1" increase in height as well as new tires. The car was also aligned. below are some pictures I took to illustrate how the beam appears:
Low beams, idling at 750:
Low beam with superlite on, idling at 750:
Here is a picture with it on in the garage:
As mentioned above the lights are not aimed. Ill take another photo when I get them aimed. I am also in the process of getting a headlight relay kit made to include the superlite to be run directly off the alternator or battery. The bulb is the new custom one that @slantsixdan had made here
Low beams, idling at 750:
Low beam with superlite on, idling at 750:
Here is a picture with it on in the garage:
As mentioned above the lights are not aimed. Ill take another photo when I get them aimed. I am also in the process of getting a headlight relay kit made to include the superlite to be run directly off the alternator or battery. The bulb is the new custom one that @slantsixdan had made here
polara10x500
Member
HOLY SHNIKEYS THATS COOL, HOPE TO GET MINE AIMED PROPERLY THIS TIME WHEN I GET HOME. PLEASE POST AN PIC. ON WHAT YOU DO WITH HEADLIGHT RELAY KIT I REALLY WANT TO DO MINE TO AND RELEIVE SOME MORE CURRENT OUT OF THE DASH. CURIOUS AS TO WHAT BATTERY YOUR USING, I'M GOING TO BE GETTING A NEW ONE SOON BUT HAVEN'T DECIDED WHAT I WANT YET.
BillHickman
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Your pictures remind me to the official superlite advertising
carfreak6970
Member
So I was finally able to finish up the lighting upgrade on the polara. It involved getting a custom headlight harness made by Rob Yule that included a third relay to run the superlite directly off of the alternator. I used headlights spec'd out by @slantsixdan at Daniel Stern Lighting. I also followed his tech tip on how to aim headlights here, and used this article on how to aim the superlite:
It worked out really well!! I have done some night driving and the light is pretty useful. I have not done much highway stuff with it but will in the next couple weeks. here are some pictures with the superlite on and off at the end of my street:
On
off:
again this is with the bulb that @slantsixdan had made. I provided a link in post 84. But if that link gets broken I believe you just take a good H3 bulb, remove it from its base and place into the superlite bulb's base. you move that bulb further out and in the base to get the proper focal length. For future reference if anyone actually tries this the beam should be able 8 inches high when the car is 25 ft from a wall.
It worked out really well!! I have done some night driving and the light is pretty useful. I have not done much highway stuff with it but will in the next couple weeks. here are some pictures with the superlite on and off at the end of my street:
On
off:
again this is with the bulb that @slantsixdan had made. I provided a link in post 84. But if that link gets broken I believe you just take a good H3 bulb, remove it from its base and place into the superlite bulb's base. you move that bulb further out and in the base to get the proper focal length. For future reference if anyone actually tries this the beam should be able 8 inches high when the car is 25 ft from a wall.
73Coupe
Senior Member
Very useful link about headlight aiming, thanks! This is not discussed much and many older cars are never aimed correctly.
Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply
I don't think I have seen this 2012 article on the superlite. Note the (Michigan-based T-code, if it is the car that I think it is) EB7 1970 Polara 'vert in the photo:
www.dodgegarage.com
Let There Be More Light | DodgeGarage
Shedding Light on Dodge’s Super-Lite! In a recent story about the junkyard discovery of a 1969 Dodge Polara 500 convertible, we stumbled onto something even ...
Fratzog
Old Man with a Hat
"a specific grille insert" is misleading language in the article. For 1970 the plastic left grill piece comes molded with a hole for the light assembly with its own part #. Also not specifically mentioned in the article is that the mounting hardware for 69 and 70 does not interchange.I don't think I have seen this 2012 article on the superlite. Note the (Michigan-based T-code, if it is the car that I think it is) EB7 1970 Polara 'vert in the photo:
Let There Be More Light | DodgeGarage
Shedding Light on Dodge’s Super-Lite! In a recent story about the junkyard discovery of a 1969 Dodge Polara 500 convertible, we stumbled onto something even ...
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Hi i also have a superlite on the 70 monaco.
It stopped working ( althought the light itself never worked but the blue indicator light worked ).
When I put the lights on, the hi beam on and super lite on; the hi beam goes of and nothing else, the superlite indicator light does not light. I checked at the superlight bulb with a voltmeter and i get no voltage.
Any idea of the cause ?
It stopped working ( althought the light itself never worked but the blue indicator light worked ).
When I put the lights on, the hi beam on and super lite on; the hi beam goes of and nothing else, the superlite indicator light does not light. I checked at the superlight bulb with a voltmeter and i get no voltage.
Any idea of the cause ?
polara71
Old Man with a Hat
The circuit is fairly isolated to itself so diagnosing /troubleshooting is not complicated but could be time consuming.
If you read the thread end to end it could help you find a solution.
I attached two photos of the superlite relays that are mounted under the dash.
Your problem will be in one or more of the following, fuse, switch, relays, bulb. Remember, if the high beams are on the superlite should not be on.
If you do not have a service manual, get one.
If you read the thread end to end it could help you find a solution.
I attached two photos of the superlite relays that are mounted under the dash.
Your problem will be in one or more of the following, fuse, switch, relays, bulb. Remember, if the high beams are on the superlite should not be on.
If you do not have a service manual, get one.
Thanks for answer.
Yes if the superlite is ON, the hi beam are not ON they switch to OFF.
I have a manual and read it but it is a bit obscure right now. I do not understant why my superlite wire goes to the anmeter..
Edit : it seems that everyone agrees on the 30 instead of 25, that would make more sens. I will check it tomorrow if i have enough time.
I discovered this thread and the first diagram seems fine but are 69 and 70 wiring the same ?
I will post pictures to advance search tomorrow.
Yes if the superlite is ON, the hi beam are not ON they switch to OFF.
I have a manual and read it but it is a bit obscure right now. I do not understant why my superlite wire goes to the anmeter..
Edit : it seems that everyone agrees on the 30 instead of 25, that would make more sens. I will check it tomorrow if i have enough time.
I discovered this thread and the first diagram seems fine but are 69 and 70 wiring the same ?
I will post pictures to advance search tomorrow.
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polara71
Old Man with a Hat
I can not tell you the differences between 69 & 70 wiring. The car I added the complete circuit to is a 70 so the references should compare equally to yours.
Hi, it was quite easy and it is working ( virtualy ).
Thanks polara71 for the pictures that helped me to locate the relays. I remember : never trust the repair manual ( not because it is poorly done, but it is sometimes very unclear and yolo on certain details ) but it helps it is true.
I want to thank alan ( mrmoparchp ) on this thread
Super-lite Electrical Broken Down
he helped A LOT to understand the principe a save time to read the manual.
I noticed some difference on my car :
- wires on my SL swith are violet - red and dark blue with tracer. And that matches my repair manual.
SO as polara71 said, it is a circuit that only fees the SL so you can test it easily. In fact you can test it with only 1 move, but first car must have :
- functionnal headlights
- functionnal hi beam.
If it is ok, all above is working, and SL circuit will by fed buy the SL switch ( DBL* for my car ).
The hardest is to remove the relays... pffffff. Why on hell you screw relays at that place ?!?!?.
relay is on the left.
- open the relay ( you can see the coil ), ->headlights on -> hi beam on -> SL switch on -> hi beam shut off ( because they are fed buy SL switch ) -> just press on the coil and et voilà ! SL is working.
you can test the wires before with a continuity test to identify and test.
Conclusion : my relay is dead. The coil does not have continuity.
I will try to replace it with a modern one, but if someone have an original for sale i am interrested.
Thanks polara71 for the pictures that helped me to locate the relays. I remember : never trust the repair manual ( not because it is poorly done, but it is sometimes very unclear and yolo on certain details ) but it helps it is true.
I want to thank alan ( mrmoparchp ) on this thread
Super-lite Electrical Broken Down
he helped A LOT to understand the principe a save time to read the manual.
I noticed some difference on my car :
- wires on my SL swith are violet - red and dark blue with tracer. And that matches my repair manual.
SO as polara71 said, it is a circuit that only fees the SL so you can test it easily. In fact you can test it with only 1 move, but first car must have :
- functionnal headlights
- functionnal hi beam.
If it is ok, all above is working, and SL circuit will by fed buy the SL switch ( DBL* for my car ).
The hardest is to remove the relays... pffffff. Why on hell you screw relays at that place ?!?!?.
relay is on the left.
- open the relay ( you can see the coil ), ->headlights on -> hi beam on -> SL switch on -> hi beam shut off ( because they are fed buy SL switch ) -> just press on the coil and et voilà ! SL is working.
you can test the wires before with a continuity test to identify and test.
Conclusion : my relay is dead. The coil does not have continuity.
I will try to replace it with a modern one, but if someone have an original for sale i am interrested.
polara71
Old Man with a Hat
There are a couple Of guys here that have them on a shelf. Glad it worked out for you.
carfreak6970
Member
If you want to replace with a modern relay, on the previous page of this thread I outlined what type of relay you need and which wires each pin needs to connect too
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for the superlite relay you want to use the SPST relay and connect the following wires to the labeled terminals on the relay:
30 - Power in L12/M1
85 - Ground - just make a wire and attach to any good ground under the dash, I used the bolt securing the parking brake. the same bolt the original relays are attached too.
86 - input signal L11A
87 - output L10/L11"
I think that's what i was going to do.
Thanks !
It is late here ( 11 pm ), i replaced the old relay with a modern relay, 5 minutes job that took me 2 hours..
I choose not to replace the hi beam relay because it works fine. I replaced it at its original place and.. no hi beam. It was a bad ground as usual. I sanded the location of the relay on the parking brake but there was some grease or something that killed the ground. Brake cleaner was the solution.
I put the relay directly on the original wiring with extra wires.
And it works. It does absolutely nothing but it works. It is an h1 lamp, the lamp is on , but it does nothing, no diffrence between headlight and superlite. I thibk it is just a bulb issue. It is not a big deal.
I choose not to replace the hi beam relay because it works fine. I replaced it at its original place and.. no hi beam. It was a bad ground as usual. I sanded the location of the relay on the parking brake but there was some grease or something that killed the ground. Brake cleaner was the solution.
I put the relay directly on the original wiring with extra wires.
And it works. It does absolutely nothing but it works. It is an h1 lamp, the lamp is on , but it does nothing, no diffrence between headlight and superlite. I thibk it is just a bulb issue. It is not a big deal.
polara71
Old Man with a Hat
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