Graham: What's your take on the Hellcat Redeye.

From what I have read the Redeye wont be as powerful(745HP?) as the Demon hence the cheaper price.
 
Those paddle shifters are way quicker then your left knee, right arm and right ankle. Formula one has been using those for years, just because the engines spun so fast. If you've got an engine spinning at 18,000 rpm and dump the clutch to find another gear especially down shifting, look out! Before the all the manufactures went to paddle shift transmissions, they were exploding two or three engines a race. The engine management computer can, blip the throttle, dump the clutch, blip the throttle again, then shift the trans and then hit the throttle again in a millisecond. I know I'd never be able to do that.
Even back in the day, the fastest 1/4 mile times advertised in say motor trend, were always with automatics. Just sayin'
 
Regular Hellcat is now 717, and the Redeye is just shy of 800.

Without any testing equipment or timing equipment I know I wouldn't be able to tell the difference with my buttOmeter. There are so many of this new body style on the road now and at classic car shows there are so many originals[seems like more than were made at the factory back then] the market is saturated. The entry level new ones have the quality look of a stripped rent a car.
 
Believe me....you can definitely tell when you pull up to a Hellcat/Demon/Redeye variant. It ain't your Grandma's Challenger....LOL!
 
Believe me....you can definitely tell when you pull up to a Hellcat/Demon/Redeye variant. It ain't your Grandma's Challenger....LOL!

I agree with you there.
 
This is the first I have heard of this car, I will have to do some research
 
You realize they made 6-cylinder Challengers the first time around, right?

Besides, where am I going to get fenders for my salvage-title Hellcat in 2025?
 
I seriously doubt many of us (I know I can't) can shift a manual as fast as these performance automatics shift. Buying a manual in one of these cars really means 'slower' times at the strip if you ever did want to run it. IMHO.
That's not the point. I could give a crap about automatics being faster or whatother advantages they have. I hate constantly adjusting a clutch. Its about being connected to the vehicle's soul. Man and machine working in harmony together. Letting a transmission do all your thinking is wrong.
And people didn't resist and that ultimately has now led us into stop/start technolgy.
I am man and I work in harmony with my machine.

It's a zen thing.


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Gotcha, well if it's real seat of the pants old school driving with way more power to weight ratio than just about anything else on the road your looking for, take a few minutes and watch this video. Pretty darn crazy and funny.
 
That is one of the reasons I don't care for the Challenger.

I could buy one with a V-6 and it really doesn't look much different than any other... at least to me anyway.
I'll be shopping for one as soon as I can figure out how to haul a sheet of plywood with it... (intact)...
 
My big block ‘71 Challenger is fast enough for me(so is my Imp for that matter) so all of these cars with 400+ hp seem really useless in a world filled with crumbling infrastructure and construction barrels.
 
useless in a world filled with crumbling infrastructure and construction barrels.

SE Michigan is not the world :)

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However, point taken... Lots of things I'd spend the $$ on before 800 HP. If people are gonna do it, and they are going to do it, I'd rather they spend it on a Dodge.
 
My big block ‘71 Challenger is fast enough for me(so is my Imp for that matter) so all of these cars with 400+ hp seem really useless in a world filled with crumbling infrastructure and construction barrels.
Yep!

This happened about a mile from where I was yesterday.
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When you combine this type of infrastructure with cops that have no sense of humor, insane amounts of traffic at all hours, SUV driving soccer moms and all the nonsense that you have to put up with in general, a high HP car just doesn't call to me anymore.
 
That's not the point. I could give a crap about automatics being faster or whatother advantages they have. I hate constantly adjusting a clutch. Its about being connected to the vehicle's soul. Man and machine working in harmony together. Letting a transmission do all your thinking is wrong.
And people didn't resist and that ultimately has now led us into stop/start technolgy.
I am man and I work in harmony with my machine.

It's a zen thing.

Totally got your point, hence why I bought the 6 spd manual SRT8 about 10 years ago. But it does not change my point about the automatics.

Like it or not, technology moves forward, adaptation equals survival. Resistance equals obsolescence, and ultimately extinction. Man himself is not exempt.

Without adaptation, our only recourse then, is to hang on to what makes us happy knowing full well and accepting what ultimately lies ahead for us. Is that not why we still hold on to these obsolete cars from the 50's, 60's, and 70's?

Zen won't save you from the future.
 
My big block ‘71 Challenger is fast enough for me(so is my Imp for that matter) so all of these cars with 400+ hp seem really useless in a world filled with crumbling infrastructure and construction barrels.
Not to mention deer, critters, railroad crossings (they can put a man on the moon, but can't build a smooth railroad crossing) bridge joints, cops lurking in the shadows (NYST don't even drive with their headlights on anymore) and of course idiot drivers!
 
Zen is great I suppose, but it gets old pretty quick as you get arthritis, stiff joints and slowly lose muscle memory. I like auto with cruise and the new crash avoidance systems that look after my car while I try to figure out what lane I need to be in!
:rofl:
 
Zen won't save you from the future.
Zen will allow me to cope with the future.
I like auto with cruise and the new crash avoidance systems that look after my car while I try to figure out what lane I need to be in!
I'm embarrassed to admit how often my Lane Departure Warning kicks in...
And the Side Alert warning saved my *** this week backing out of a parking space stuffed between two full size SUVs.
 
I'm embarrassed to admit how often my Lane Departure Warning kicks in...

M Jeep doesn't have that feature but my daughter's Jeep does. I was driving her Jeep one day and I couldn't figure out what the heck all the beeping and flashing lights were about. Felt a little dumb when she explained things. Now I play a game to see how far I can drift without setting off the beeps. Just like playing Operation ...
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