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    Moseman Well-Known Member FCBO Gold Member

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    If anyone makes it to NW New Mexico, message me, I will get you on a Marion 8750 dragline, about 13 million pounds, with a bucket capacity of 125 cubic yards.
     
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    This may be my favorite RR to date...I find junkyards and salvage yards exhilarating at first and then depressing by the time I leave. The guy that built this machine could resurrect any of those wasting away carcasses that parts are scavenged from decade after decade...the ability to get that old iron back on the road...well, I find that quite uplifting and admire that skill level and gift.
     
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    Ah, the "archetype" Electro-Motive F Series (dunno what the Blue one it, but its here somewhere). My absolute favorite locomotive -- Santa Fe Railroad had a big facility where I grew up, and the cover of my 1960's book "Roundabout Train". :)

    "EMD F-units were a line of diesel-electric locomotives produced between November 1939 and November 1960 by General Motors Electro-Motive Division and General Motors-Diesel Division. Final assembly for all F-units was at the GM-EMD plant at La Grange, Illinois and the GMDD plant in London, Ontario, Canada. They were sold to railroads throughout the United States, Canada, Mexico and a few were exported to Saudi Arabia.

    The term F-unit refers to the model numbers given to each successive type (i.e. F3, F7, etc.), all of which began with the letter F. The "F" originally meant Fourteen, as in 1,400 horsepower, not F as in Freight. Longer EMD E-units for passenger service had twin 900 horsepower diesel engines (called "prime movers" in this type of application). The "E" meant Eighteen as in 1,800 horsepower. Similarly, for early model EMD switchers "S" meant Six hundred and "N" meant Nine hundred horsepower."

    Source: EMD F-unit - Wikipedia
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    Here are my locomotives.

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    Advertised as passing a cop at 145mph (240kph) .. no big deal really cuz its on the Autobahn (fine print, plus road signs are dead giveaway).

    Those of you who have driven on it know you pass the Federales all the time (in the sections/condiitons where/when "as fast as your car can go" speeds allowed)

    I just wished I coulda had a big, thumpin, American V8 Hellcat to do it, like this feller. (I had a V8 Audi and V12 Mercedes --bad ass cars in their own right, but not the feel/sound I was/am used to).

    doing it on the Autobahn, versus an American road, for me takes some of the palm-sweats/lawbreaking element out, leaves all fun in.

    Anyway, fun vid that I could see myself tempted on any interstate in US if I had a Hellcat :)

     
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    I believe the blue locomotive was a steam locomotive called the Blue Goose, a 4-6-4 Hudson type. Streamlined for use with the lesser streamliners between Colorado and Chicago
     
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    Yup

    The ATSF 3460 class were a class of six 4-6-4 steam locomotives numbered 3460 to 3465. They were known as "Super Hudsons" and one of the "Big 3" in Santa Fe lore. Production of these passenger locomotives started in 1937 by the Baldwin Locomotive Works. Number 3460 was painted in a distinctive light blue and silver and usually ran between La Junta, Colorado and Chicago, Illinois. It was nicknamed the "Blue Goose". The headlight in the middle is reminiscent of some of New York Central's Henry Dreyfuss designed streamlined locomotives. Five were scrapped (including the beautiful Blue Goose) leaving #3463 the lone survivor of the class. #3463 is currently on majestic display on the grounds of the Kansas Expocentre in Topeka, KS. where it has been displayed since 1956.

    source: ATSF 3460 class

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    I just learned something .. i grew up in Topeka and NEVER knew what 3463 was .. 50 years later. How bout dat FCB0 :)

    source: ATSF Hudson 4-6-4 No. 3463 -- Kansas Expocentre, Topeka KS - Locomotives on Waymarking.com

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    Sorry .. gotta follow this lead.

    There family pictures from the 1960s with us posing next to this thing -- called my Mom (still lives in Topeka) to see if she has them. We just called it
    "The Train"

    Story source is Topeka Capitol Journal, but their site is so damn spammy I am not posting it. But date is Jan 2018. I have excerpted article below

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    Fight over Topeka locomotive ends; No. 3463 to be restored

    Posted Jan 23, 2018 at 5:48 PM

    80-year-old locomotive at Kansas Expocentre will remain in Topeka

    The long-running dispute over Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway No. 3463 — the old steam locomotive that has stood quietly near the Kansas Expocentre for more than 60 years — came to an end this past week with the engine likely staying in Topeka, though a Minnesota-based nonprofit will maintain ownership.

    The Coalition for Sustainable Rail announced Tuesday it will raise funds to move the train to a base in Topeka. From there the condition of the engine, built in 1937, will be evaluated with the goal of restoring the train to full operation. If that is out of reach, Davidson Ward said the CSR will restore the train cosmetically. A lawsuit centered on who officially owned the old locomotive was settled out of court and dismissed Jan. 16.

    “I’m excited to keep it in Topeka,” said Davidson Ward, president of CSR. “It has some significant history with that town. It ran to Topeka many times during its career.”

    Ownership saga

    The train’s saga began in 1956 when the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway donated the engine to the city of Topeka. The city maintained the train after it moved to the Kansas Free Fairgrounds, where the Kansas Expocentre now stands. The locomotive was moved to its present location near the Shunga trial after construction of the Expocentre began in the 1980s. By 1990 the city no longer wanted to pay for its upkeep and transferred ownership to Topeka Railroad Days.

    Path to preservation

    Originally CSR, which focuses on advancing sustainable steam and other energy sources along with promoting the preservation of historic rail equipment, planned to retrofit the locomotive to burn a wood-based biofuel. The engine would have been the centerpiece of a project testing the viability of the fuel as a stand-in for coal with a modified tender, fuel box and steam delivery system.

    “It would not have been irreversible at all and wouldn’t have drastically altered its appearance,” Ward said of retrofitting the engine. “With our researching moving on down the track, we’re ready to focus on our other main goal: preservation.”

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    This picture has arrow at top -- that was my Jr,High School. Arrow at bottom is where #3463 is now. The whole thing is different than when I was a boy .. the Mid America State Fair used to be held here before the Expo Center was built. I was long gone by then .. heck there was even a racetrack on this site in the 1960s

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    this picture, is the bottom arrow position of old #3463 awaiting its fate.

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    Guys, please allow me to hijack my own thread for a couple of posts

    I have been burnin' up the phone minutes with Mom and sister who are still in Topeka (and who also played the "Name that Girl" here in that old thread ).

    Tangent alert! -- this little trip down memory lane takes me back to stuff I havent thought about in years. And the older I get, the heavier the nostalgia gets. NOT in a bad way but the wistful, "those were good days" kinda way of our youth. Think about how your life turned out, compared to what you thought 50 years ago when you were actually AT the places/events you've long forgotten perhaps?

    Ok, back here on the ground, these are pictures from the 1960's of the Mid America Fair in Topeka. My sister argued there was no racetrack at the fairgrounds ...we'll yes there was. My Mom asked me what I was smokin when I reminded her of the Andy Williams concert -- so I had to beat her up a little bit too. All in fun of course :)

    Like "Terrance Mann" (James Earl Jones character in Field of Dreams) said: "The memories will be so thick, they will have to brush them away from their faces. People will come Ray". (Quote by James Earl Jones: “Ray. People will come, Ray. They'll come to Iow...”)


    First three pics - The "Midway" in the 1960's (looking south to north, the Kansas State Capitol dome is visible in the distance in a couple shots, and the racetrack grandstand clearly visible at bottom of second pic).

    Man ... I can smell the cotton candy, the taffy, the carmel corn, hear the calliope-like sounds from the rides, hear the screaming and laughing. heck I am 8 years old again, and its a warm summer night, and I can see my 33-yr old Dad (rest his soul) is over there with my 27-yr old Mom laughing and eating popcorn ... :)

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    The races -- yes, smack dab in the middle of a fairly large city. They even had Friday night races for a while -- then the noise police put a stop to all that somethere before we left the city in 1971.

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    The Andy Williams show we went to -- the evidence suggests it had to be in 1964 too, tho my Mom's memory isnt so good on the exact year. I recall my youngest sister was still in a stroller, and she was born in 1962.

    I didnt know who Andy Williams was except he was the guy on a Christmas album we had. I do not remember the "Osmonds" at all -- until "One Bad Apple" in late, late 60's. I remember thinking that Jackson Five made that song :)

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    Pettingell #2 Powerhammer, drool....
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    gotta admit i did NOT know what this was....never seen one in use .. even tho its close historical ties to the industry I grew up in so to speak. I only ever saw multi-hundred ton stamping presses do this work in the mass-production environment.



    its clear though you need to pay attention to what you are doing, and probably need to have worked on your upper body strength/flexibility :).

    definitely a "heavy metal" tool.




    Detroit-based now ...Pettingell Machine Company

    Although Pettingell Machine Company of Detroit, Michigan was founded in 2016, the journey of its predecessor began much earlier. Over 100 years ago, the original Pettingell Machine Company of Amesbury, Massachusetts, introduced the automatic power hammer, which was designed specifically for the budding automobile body and sheet metal trades. This product was offered in several variations and quickly became the company’s most popular and versatile product.

    Historically, Pettingell machines have been known to be the cornerstone of many successful coachbuilding and production body companies, such as the Fisher Body Company, Walter M. Murphy Co., Briggs Body Company, Budd Manufacturing, California Metal Shaping, and Red's Metal Shaping, to name but a few.

    It is no surprise the Pettingell power hammer is revered for its simple, elegant, and robust design; however, due to the advancements in production technology, as well as a disinterest in antiquated craft methods, this type of machinery has become scarce. In turn, a complete Pettingell power hammer has become highly sought after. The reintroduction of the Pettingell power hammer will enable the discerning craftsmen of today the opportunity to work with quality machinery that was typical of yesteryear. The extremely limited re-manufacturing of the № 2M Heavy harkens manufacturing processes of the past, utilizing traditional methods of manufacture, while still implementing the use of present-day technology, where applicable.

    The mission of Pettingell Machine Company is to provide the highest quality metal shaping equipment available today by producing a product that any craftsman from the past or present would be proud to own and operate. This is the intention of Hans Sahling. This Michigan-based craftsman is behind the Pettingell Machine Company of today. He feels the best power hammer produces the best results and being the best is the only goal.

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    Had a chance to have a trip to Hendricks Motorsports in Concord NC on a work deal. Had the free museum visit and got these shots. Also had a "VIP" tour of several other "No Public Access" areas where no photography is allowed if you can get int.

    Anyway, the museum stuff is below. Please, I know we have folks not so keen on NASCAR, Chevrolet, or Hendricks, or Johnson, or Gordon, of whatever. I don't care much about any of that .. just was trying to be a "car guy" around some other "car guys/gals" :)

    First one. Ken Schrader's wreck at Talledega in 1995. Everybody was sure he was a goner. Check out first 30 seconds, then back about the 2min mark to the end



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    a display that raises the body to show car construction


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    some parts that caught my eye.

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    other parts .. electronics that started appearing in the cars in the 2000s but NOT on dash before that. Something needs a big honkin air vent all its own.

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    I was at inagural Brickyard in 1994 when we sponsored Dale back in those days (I was at Daytona too :() Any it was Gordon's day in this car.

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    White arrows .. why only on one side and why that side? On the VIP tour a garage guy had to "splain it" to my dumba** . :)

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