no sweat bro...i am gonna yank a few out and post. the seriously interested will see them in the link. thx.
Scenicruisin'..?
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no sweat bro...i am gonna yank a few out and post. the seriously interested will see them in the link. thx.
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
The GX-1 ..."Grandad" of the Scenicruiser. Actually saw route service for a few years
https://youtu.be/tPKkVxKeKtE
Plan B was the GX-2, the "Dad" of the Scenicruiser
https://youtu.be/tPKkVxKeKtE
Plan B was the GX-2, the "Dad" of the Scenicruiser
I was gonna put this in the "Ok You Truckers" thread but my topic was gonna be sleepers versus motorhomes we sort of took on a couple of pages ago.
I really kinda like the following trucks because (1) they look cool, and (2) they have big-a** sleepers. they are NOT "motorhomes" per se..but they must exist to combine a business (not leisure) purpose for needing powerful rig with a practical need for lodging on the road?
anybody own/know and owner of one and what they say about them, versus a "motorhome"?
I really kinda like the following trucks because (1) they look cool, and (2) they have big-a** sleepers. they are NOT "motorhomes" per se..but they must exist to combine a business (not leisure) purpose for needing powerful rig with a practical need for lodging on the road?
anybody own/know and owner of one and what they say about them, versus a "motorhome"?
not too bad i guess inside..depending again on if you need to sleep, or just showin' off 
but, the truck above are MUCH bigger than these below...more like motor-homes suitable for more than one person, or to entertain guest/clients at events?
but, the truck above are MUCH bigger than these below...more like motor-homes suitable for more than one person, or to entertain guest/clients at events?
70bigblockdodge
Old Man with a Hat
I have no info other than you need to be hauling some high dollar freight to warrant being on the road that much no thanks.
Looks useless to me, a lot of showoff money there.... give me a 1970 c body convertible and I have more than what I need.....
I do like your bus of choice though
I do like your bus of choice though
twostick
Senior Member
A couple of conversion coach forums.
http://busnut.com/forum/index.php?board=2.0
http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?www
A Scenicruiser is a cool ride but they are scarce and if you find one done, expensive. Probably still cheaper to buy done tho. Pretty much like most collectible vehicles.
Lots of engine options available none of them cheap. The original 8v71 is dependable but underpowered and thirsty by today's standards. The 8v92 has lots of power with the right tune up in it but thirstier when you take advantage. There are DDEC electronic versions of the 92 which are better on fuel and seeing as you want an automatic might be able to talk to the Allison World 7 speed.
When you consider that the average yearly mileage most people put on these things is under 6000 miles, fuel mileage really isn't an issue. Even if a modern engine got double the mileage you wouldn't live long enough for it to pay for itself. A well tuned 2 stroke has a sound that is worth the price IMHO.
My preference for modern power would be a Series 60 with a 13 speed Eaton but likely not enough room for it all to fit. I think there is mention of a 'Cruiser on those forums with a 60 in it with an Allison tho.
The Series 50 is a good engine but has some expensive maintenance requirements. It is a 4 cyl engine with a balance shaft that need to be replaced periodically $$$.
Kevin
http://busnut.com/forum/index.php?board=2.0
http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?www
A Scenicruiser is a cool ride but they are scarce and if you find one done, expensive. Probably still cheaper to buy done tho. Pretty much like most collectible vehicles.
Lots of engine options available none of them cheap. The original 8v71 is dependable but underpowered and thirsty by today's standards. The 8v92 has lots of power with the right tune up in it but thirstier when you take advantage. There are DDEC electronic versions of the 92 which are better on fuel and seeing as you want an automatic might be able to talk to the Allison World 7 speed.
When you consider that the average yearly mileage most people put on these things is under 6000 miles, fuel mileage really isn't an issue. Even if a modern engine got double the mileage you wouldn't live long enough for it to pay for itself. A well tuned 2 stroke has a sound that is worth the price IMHO.
My preference for modern power would be a Series 60 with a 13 speed Eaton but likely not enough room for it all to fit. I think there is mention of a 'Cruiser on those forums with a 60 in it with an Allison tho.
The Series 50 is a good engine but has some expensive maintenance requirements. It is a 4 cyl engine with a balance shaft that need to be replaced periodically $$$.
Kevin
What's the cost difference between a Scenicruiser and one of those Megacruisers?
earlier in the thread, 300rag turned me on the those Prevosts. New, a couple million so OUT of the question for me - aint go the lettuce for that kinda extravagance. Used Prevosts are $500K- 800K or so BUT i don't want a bus that bad.
my budget for the Scenicruiser project is $250K. I was told a beater could be had for under $10,000. and then I was told multiply acquisition price by 20 and add 20% contingency to "get it really right". anything more is "whatever you can afford". that's how I got my budget.
this one, clearly a "beater" is $6500. http://usedrvforsale.blogspot.com/2015/02/1954-gm-scenicruiser-for-sale.html
This one was for sale for $50,000 two years ago: http://www.examiner.com/article/gmc-scenicruiser-motorhome-conversion-up-for-sale
Buying one "done" is my first objective, but my initial look 4-5 years ago all I saw were "dated" interior conversions, and then ONE that is early on in this thread that was "unreasonably" priced (mechanicals were great, interior treatment not so much). Admittedly though, I didnt try to hard to find one back then.
I have a few years to figure it all out...but YES, I am leaning toward a getting one already done interior-wise close (with easy to change things if I want) to the way I want, with a modern powertrain conversion (many good ideas have been offered up here on FCBO), versus trying to convert one.
thanks man. great links!
I gotta study this 2 stroke vs. 4 stroke thing. Not because I don't believe you and others who have mentioned it...its just I don't get it yet. no skill, no experience on my part
Apparently Hoyt Axton owned Scenicruiser "598" as a tour bus. Wrote a song about his "Honeysuckle Rose"
First pic is when it belonged to Commander Cody and His Lost Planet Airmen (never heard of 'em).
CORRECTION.."Hot Rod Lincoln" - see video - knew song but didnt know they remade it in 1971 (Charley Ryan did it first in 1955).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R7l7nDuj1o
Hoyt Axton bought 598 in 1980's and used it on tour after a repaint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjat5GZ9Mf8
First pic is when it belonged to Commander Cody and His Lost Planet Airmen (never heard of 'em).
CORRECTION.."Hot Rod Lincoln" - see video - knew song but didnt know they remade it in 1971 (Charley Ryan did it first in 1955).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R7l7nDuj1o
Hoyt Axton bought 598 in 1980's and used it on tour after a repaint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjat5GZ9Mf8
Apparently, somebody is trying to keep track of all the Scencruisers...only 90 here? gotta be more around, including a few overseas i would guess
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zcagLZfn1mrs.kyGfPeqPyuzk&hl=en_US
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zcagLZfn1mrs.kyGfPeqPyuzk&hl=en_US
The real reason for wanting one..."chick-magnet" :icon_pirat: . The Red Bull rig has its own Facebook Page
Yes, a British chap owns this one -- "083".
allegedly it took $75,000 to bring it back to original condition, a laudable goal well accomplished it seems. my guess, including the boat rides (at least four) across the Atlantic, is he's got over $100K in it.
So to gut one, and trick it out inside, with new mechanicals to boot, has gotta be twice that..or $200K-$250K
lots of neat pics on his resto..
http://www.greyhoundcoach.com/restoration.html
Cool Video of what he accomplished.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYcE5Xl6zmY
allegedly it took $75,000 to bring it back to original condition, a laudable goal well accomplished it seems. my guess, including the boat rides (at least four) across the Atlantic, is he's got over $100K in it.
So to gut one, and trick it out inside, with new mechanicals to boot, has gotta be twice that..or $200K-$250K
lots of neat pics on his resto..
http://www.greyhoundcoach.com/restoration.html
Cool Video of what he accomplished.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYcE5Xl6zmY
70bigblockdodge
Old Man with a Hat
The real reason for wanting one..."chick-magnet" :icon_pirat: . The Red Bull rig has its own Facebook Page
I would jump on this bus.
300rag
It's Not Going to Shift Itself
The real reason for wanting one..."chick-magnet" :icon_pirat: . The Red Bull rig has its own Facebook Page
What are you going to do if you can catch one?
My worry, that when I am 65 and get this rig, and at the rate I am personally "aging" it seems, is NOTHING. :icon_redface:
Ripinator
Old Man with a Hat
Here is the right bus for you. And its affordable. . . HO - scale.
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